Sugar Land residents with questions or concerns about their neighborhood or the city in general will have an opportunity to address those issues at local town hall meeting in October.
City representatives will answer questions and provide information specific to each district, and residents will have the opportunity to speak and ask questions. All meetings are held from 6:30-8:30 p.m.
District 2
Thursday, Oct. 1
Sugar Creek Country Club
420 Sugar Creek Blvd.
Represented by Councilman Don Olson
District 1
Monday, Oct. 5
Sugar Land Community Center
226 Matlage Way
Represented by Councilman Don Smithers
District 3 & 4
Thursday, Oct. 8
Sugar Land City Hall
2700 Town Center Blvd. North
Represented by Councilmen Russell Jones & Michael Schiff
To see a map of districts, visit http://www.sugarlandtx.gov.. For more information, call 281-275-2710.
hard to believe that some cannot grasp the simple concept that once you add a state income tax to a state property tax their taxes go way up compared to a state that doesn’t have a state income tax.
Surely no one CAN be that dense? Yes we can!
I like the split con1, but they are setting up the zone after the fact of getting approval from the community that claimed they would pay for it through “special use taxes” and not the TIRZ which will include the county and is asking for school district participation. Of course if the district participates it will be a first ever and during a 20 million dollar budget crisis and recent property tax rate increase. IMO, they should have told the public this in the first place and I still wonder why the companies profiting from this can’t build it and then recoup from their investment. No one is saying don’t build it, but they want us to fund it.
santhony says:
September 30th, 2009 at 2:55 pm (#
“are you back to your tired old argument of an appraisal increase in our property taxes is not a tax increase?”
just another lie by a liar.
You really don’t need tax dollars for this venture. But since it will generate a lot of money for the city, I think its a good investment. It should be 75% private and 25% public. Like I said previously, residents ( sugar land tax payers )should get 1st dibs on the investment.
The council gets to decide what will be developed. The cronyism takes place when they don’t allow residents to invest in the ventures that will be in there backyard. If tax dollars and the power of the city are being used to build “whatever” they are building, why can’t the residents be given first crack at the investment? We already are backing it with the “investment zone”, now give us the prospetus and issue shares, then there will be no argument on cronyism, everyone is in. I would be less irritated at paying $7 a beer if I was making some of the profit off everyone else paying $7 beer.
My opinion is we need a first class music venue. And to the others that say Houston has all that, they do, but if you make it nice, it can compete with Houston, and maybe we can get some good music without having to travel all the way to The Woodlands for a decent concert. What else are you going to do with that “no tax generating river bottom”?
That’s the best charlie can do is come up with more sophistry.
When you can’t honestly debate, redirect? I’ll bite, are you back to your tired old argument of an appraisal increase in our property taxes is not a tax increase?
PS No one would ever be advised to get information from you CB on anything, ever and that’s a promise. Your gov’t vendor-defender feeding days in here are numbered. You see they see you too and understand that you do them more harm than good. I’m sure next time they will send someone who can at least bait a trap and close it in these threads. I haven’t seen you do that in all the years you’ve posted here as “wadefishin, johnbernardbooks or now as ftbendconman”….lol
On with the show CB……..which is it going to be rank list or median home values and no you can’t claim anymore that the tax foundation list is just a NY ranking, wrong again….hahaha
I remember when you thought MC had two tax increases in the same year. I also remember how you didn’t know how a budgeting process worked.
Are we going to now have to do the same thing on property taxes?
Lets do this why don’t you ask a grown up to explain how property tax works and then come back for the rest of your whuppin son. BTW I know you wait with baited breath for everything I say, but dammit son I ain’t your mentor.
Patriot, Looks like true has the idea. Don’t feed the gov’t vendor defender “liberal” trolls. I mean after all if charlie b., the president of a local HOA, can’t read the tax foundation national survey and keeps insisting it is a survey of just New York counties, then why bother. Let him enjoy his little fantasy.
I guess he thinks it is a misprint or something and the media surrounding it was an invention. Senility is a harsh reality for him.
PS charlieB (“wadefishin/johnbernardbooks/ftbendconman”), I will speak more slowly for you this time. Just tell me if it’s too much information for you. The article and supporting data above is from national census data that the tax foundation, a conservative tax watch group, disaggregated into varying categories which supports the statement you keep taking out of context for your usual miscreant misrepresentations. The data you continue to ignore and mislabel as only “new york counties” would be humorous except you publically posting a false interpretation as you already know. My 4 year old understands this, but apparently you don’t?
“The Tax Foundation says the list ranks the nation’s counties with 20,000 or more people according to the median amount of real estate taxes residents pay, calculated as a percentage of the county’s median home value. The foundation averaged figures from 2005, 2006 and 2007.” FBN
Notice they say the nations counties with 20,000 or more and that this is a 3 year running average. Remember it says NATIONS, not New York counties only (as YOU imply repeatedly). So now you got back to the actual list already posted several times above and look for any other Texas counties, over 20k (meaning like areas to ours) and notice none show up on the national study.
Next, like the article and others, you then make the statement drawn from this that we, according to this survey, rank AS THE MOST HIGHLY TAXED COUNTY (via PROPERTY TAXES) PER MEDIAN HOME VALUE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. According to this often cited study, that assertion is 100% correct. If you want to go see if you can find other “LIKE” counties with higher property taxes per median home value in the state then please do and post the entire piece so that it can be critiqued instead of reframed and heavily edited by you. You see you have NO credibility in these threads.
AND STOP CALLING THE SURVEY A NEW YORK ONLY SURVEY. When it is not, it is a national survey dumby!
Here again for your edification:
Top 20 Counties in Median Real Estate Taxes as a Percentage of Median Home Value
2005-2007 Average
(Population of 20,000 or More)
County
State
Median Real Estate Taxes as a Percentage of Median Home Value
Rank
Orleans County
New York
3.05%
1
Niagara County
New York
2.90%
2
Allegany County
New York
2.87%
3
Montgomery County
New York
2.86%
4
Monroe County
New York
2.84%
5
Wayne County
New York
2.74%
6
Cortland County
New York
2.69%
7
Genesee County
New York
2.69%
8
Chautauqua County
New York
2.67%
9
Livingston County
New York
2.61%
10
Fort Bend County
Texas
2.57%
11
Erie County
New York
2.56%
12
Onondaga County
New York
2.56%
13
Seneca County
New York
2.52%
14
Oswego County
New York
2.50%
15
Wyoming County
New York
2.49%
16
Fulton County
New York
2.47%
17
Cayuga County
New York
2.46%
18
Chemung County
New York
2.44%
19
Schenectady County
New York
2.43%
20
No need to selectively edit the post. It supports my claim and you need to stop the dishonesty. No one is buying it anymore than they buy into the crony defender argument on rate increases versus appraisal increases.
HOW OFTEN ARE YOU GOING TO GET IT WRONG AND WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO GO DOWN TO THE CAD OFFICE AN TRY AND SELL THIS GARBAGE TO THE LONG LINE OF PROTESTERS??? I’d love to watch then roaring with laughter at you! lol
onetrueconman/calvin here’s your statement again:
“PS “THE FACT IS WE ARE THE MOST HIGHLY TAXED (PROPERTY) COUNTY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. ”
not only is it blatantly false it doesn’t say anthing about any other fees or taxes or services. It deals with county (property).
In the state of Texas there are over 60 taxes/fees/services.
For a complete list go to the State Comptroller’s site.
This discussion was about “PS “THE FACT IS WE ARE THE MOST HIGHLY TAXED (PROPERTY) COUNTY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. ”
not only is it false its blatantly false.
I’ve heard your rants and almost all or not based on facts.
Simple solution for two of those: Don’t take the toll road and don’t run red lights. 8^)
These tax figures do not include the real taxing instruments of homeowner associatons with their “taxes” for roads, parks, and security etc. or the toll road “taxes,” or the tax cameras at our intersections. Indeed, forget New York,! when you add the $15,000. a year health insurance costs, our real taxes are way higher than FRANCE and “we’re #37″… (great song on utube)
‘The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear.’ Agar
“santhony says:
September 29th, 2009 at 10:08 am (#)
PS “THE FACT IS WE ARE THE MOST HIGHLY TAXED (PROPERTY) COUNTY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. ”
why do you keep using data about New York?
Your statement is about Ft Bend and Texas.
Kinda makes it a strawman argument, easily shredded.
And
New Census Data: From 2005 to 2007, New York, New Jersey Counties Rank Highest in Property Tax on Homeowners; Louisiana Parishes Rank Lowest
American Community Survey Data Now Includes Three-Year Averages in Places with Populations Greater than 20,000
Washington, DC, December 15, 2008 – New data released today by the Census Bureau show that over a three-year period (2005, 2006 and 2007) average homeowners in New York and New Jersey counties paid the most in property taxes while those in Louisiana parishes paid the least.
In Tax Foundation Fiscal Fact No. 157, “New Census Data on Property Taxes on Homeowners,” Tax Foundation Senior Economist Gerald Prante and Analyst Mark Robyn use newly updated Census data from the 2007 American Community Survey (ACS) to rank counties across the country according to various property tax measures.
“The ACS will still be providing annual estimates of hundreds of variables for those places with populations greater than 65,000,” Prante and Robyn explain. “However, it is also publishing estimates for places whose population exceeds 20,000, albeit on a three-year average basis.”
The first two tables show a list of the top 20 counties ranked by two different measures: by actual dollar value and as a percentage of median home value:
Top 20 Counties in Median Real Estate Taxes as a Percentage of Median Home Value
2005-2007 Average
(Population of 20,000 or More)
County
State
Median Real Estate Taxes as a Percentage of Median Home Value
Rank
Orleans County
New York
3.05%
1
Niagara County
New York
2.90%
2
Allegany County
New York
2.87%
3
Montgomery County
New York
2.86%
4
Monroe County
New York
2.84%
5
Wayne County
New York
2.74%
6
Cortland County
New York
2.69%
7
Genesee County
New York
2.69%
8
Chautauqua County
New York
2.67%
9
Livingston County
New York
2.61%
10
Fort Bend County
Texas
2.57%
11
Erie County
New York
2.56%
12
Onondaga County
New York
2.56%
13
Seneca County
New York
2.52%
14
Oswego County
New York
2.50%
15
Wyoming County
New York
2.49%
16
Fulton County
New York
2.47%
17
Cayuga County
New York
2.46%
18
Chemung County
New York
2.44%
19
Schenectady County
New York
2.43%
20
No need to selectively edit the post. It supports my claim and you need to stop the dishonesty.
Now why does the “entertainment district” need more of our taxes when they told the public that financing would be funded by special use taxes and NOT any other sources, like another TIRZ that is asking the county, school district and the city to participate????
And
New Census Data: From 2005 to 2007, New York, New Jersey Counties Rank Highest in Property Tax on Homeowners; Louisiana Parishes Rank Lowest
American Community Survey Data Now Includes Three-Year Averages in Places with Populations Greater than 20,000
Washington, DC, December 15, 2008 – New data released today by the Census Bureau show that over a three-year period (2005, 2006 and 2007) average homeowners in New York and New Jersey counties paid the most in property taxes while those in Louisiana parishes paid the least.
In Tax Foundation Fiscal Fact No. 157, “New Census Data on Property Taxes on Homeowners,” Tax Foundation Senior Economist Gerald Prante and Analyst Mark Robyn use newly updated Census data from the 2007 American Community Survey (ACS) to rank counties across the country according to various property tax measures.
“The ACS will still be providing annual estimates of hundreds of variables for those places with populations greater than 65,000,” Prante and Robyn explain. “However, it is also publishing estimates for places whose population exceeds 20,000, albeit on a three-year average basis.”
For a chart of real restate taxes paid on owner-occupied housing for each of the more than 1,800 countries with populations greater than 20,000 for the years 2005, 2006 and 2006, see the following Tax Foundation web sites: http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/24052.html for the complete table of rankings of median real estate taxes paid by dollar amount, and http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/24051.html for rankings by median real estate taxes as a percentage of the median home value and as a percentage of the median income for household-owning units.
Fiscal Fact No. 157 can be found at: http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/24053.html.
The first two tables show a list of the top 20 counties ranked by two different measures: by actual dollar value and as a percentage of median home value:
Top 20 Counties in Median Real Estate Taxes as a Percentage of Median Home Value
2005-2007 Average
(Population of 20,000 or More)
County
State
Median Real Estate Taxes as a Percentage of Median Home Value
Rank
Orleans County
New York
3.05%
1
Niagara County
New York
2.90%
2
Allegany County
New York
2.87%
3
Montgomery County
New York
2.86%
4
Monroe County
New York
2.84%
5
Wayne County
New York
2.74%
6
Cortland County
New York
2.69%
7
Genesee County
New York
2.69%
8
Chautauqua County
New York
2.67%
9
Livingston County
New York
2.61%
10
Fort Bend County
Texas
2.57%
11
Erie County
New York
2.56%
12
Onondaga County
New York
2.56%
13
Seneca County
New York
2.52%
14
Oswego County
New York
2.50%
15
Wyoming County
New York
2.49%
16
Fulton County
New York
2.47%
17
Cayuga County
New York
2.46%
18
Chemung County
New York
2.44%
19
Schenectady County
New York
2.43%
20
No need to selectively edit the post. It supports my claim and you need to stop the dishonesty.
Now why does the “entertainment district” need more of our taxes when they told the public that financing would be funded by special use taxes and NOT any other sources, like another TIRZ that is asking the county, school district and the city to participate????
Well charlieB (”wadefishin/johnbernardbooks/ftbendconman”), there is one thing you will be remembered for and that is your undying defense of a lie and continued word-smithing. You refuse to debate on the tax foundation data and just play dumb on property taxes based on median home value…..ok, play dumb.
You are dishonest and without any honor what-so-ever. Keep lying to yourself, but I strongly suggest you go take a freshman level debate course and stats class. You insist on using ordinal numbers, rather than the numbers introduced and discussed here.
So typical and very sad. Perhaps it is your advanced age and they didn’t teach those concepts when you were in school, but I prefer to think it is deliberate and you aren’t really that ignorant. Public deception is a game you crony-boy govt vendor defenders play often and it will continue to be exposed. You see I don’t have to keep exposing the errors in your argument to see the long lines at the tax office in protest.
Tell me which tax firm do you all push on the residents of your neighborhood charlie? It’s big news in MC that everyone seems to know about. Is that perhaps why you don’t give a rats a__ what the rest of us pay. Could it also be you are approaching that age exemption thingy too and just don’t give a damn?
Here, for your edification once again (read it slowly and then go soak your dentures):
Tax Foundation Study Again Hits Fort Bend County Hard For High Property Taxes
January 29th, 2009 | by Bob Dunn | Published in News | 11 Comments
The Tax Foundation has released new Census Bureau data showing Fort Bend County standing alone among a sea of New York counties, all painted as having the nation’s highest property taxes.
The list, titled “Top 20 Counties in Median Real Estate Taxes as a Percentage of Median Home Value, includes Fort Bend at No. 11. Every other county is from New York.
The Tax Foundation says the list ranks the nation’s counties with 20,000 or more people according to the median amount of real estate taxes residents pay, calculated as a percentage of the county’s median home value. The foundation averaged figures from 2005, 2006 and 2007.
In Fort Bend, according to the data, residents pay about 2.57% of the value of their homes in property taxes each year. By comparison, residents of nine Louisiana parishes and one Hawaii county pay less than 0.155% of their homes’ value in annual property taxes.
Fort Bend County has fared poorly in Tax Foundation studies for the past several years.
Almost two years ago to the day, the foundation released Census data showing Fort Bend at No. 5 on a similar list ranking property taxes as a percentage of median home value, based on 2006 data.
And using just 2007 data, Fort Bend ranked No. 8 on the same list, showing median property taxes of $4,229 paid on a median home value of $168,800 – equaling about 2.5% of that home’s value…
Well charlieB (“wadefishin/johnbernardbooks/ftbendconman”), there is one thing you will be remembered for and that is your undying defense of a lie and continued word-smithing. You refuse to debate on the tax foundation data and just play dumb on property taxes based on median home value…..ok, play dumb.
You are dishonest and without any honor what-so-ever. Keep lying to yourself, but I strongly suggest you go take a freshman level debate course and stats class. You insist on using ordinal numbers, rather than the numbers introduced and discussed here.
So typical and very sad. Perhaps it is your advanced age and they didn’t teach those concepts when you were in school, but I prefer to think it is deliberate and you aren’t really that ignorant. Public deception is a game you crony-boy govt vendor defenders play often and it will continue to be exposed. You see I don’t have to keep exposing the errors in your argument to see the long lines at the tax office in protest.
Tell me which tax firm do you all push on the residents of your neighborhood charlie? It’s big news in MC that everyone seems to know about. Is that perhaps why you don’t give a rats a__ what the rest of us pay. Could it also be you are approaching that age exemption thingy too and just don’t give a damn?
Here, for your edification once again (read it slowly and then go soak your dentures):
Tax Foundation Study Again Hits Fort Bend County Hard For High Property Taxes
January 29th, 2009 | by Bob Dunn | Published in News | 11 Comments
The Tax Foundation has released new Census Bureau data showing Fort Bend County standing alone among a sea of New York counties, all painted as having the nation’s highest property taxes.
The list, titled “Top 20 Counties in Median Real Estate Taxes as a Percentage of Median Home Value, includes Fort Bend at No. 11. Every other county is from New York.
The Tax Foundation says the list ranks the nation’s counties with 20,000 or more people according to the median amount of real estate taxes residents pay, calculated as a percentage of the county’s median home value. The foundation averaged figures from 2005, 2006 and 2007.
In Fort Bend, according to the data, residents pay about 2.57% of the value of their homes in property taxes each year. By comparison, residents of nine Louisiana parishes and one Hawaii county pay less than 0.155% of their homes’ value in annual property taxes.
Fort Bend County has fared poorly in Tax Foundation studies for the past several years.
Almost two years ago to the day, the foundation released Census data showing Fort Bend at No. 5 on a similar list ranking property taxes as a percentage of median home value, based on 2006 data.
And using just 2007 data, Fort Bend ranked No. 8 on the same list, showing median property taxes of $4,229 paid on a median home value of $168,800 – equaling about 2.5% of that home’s value…
And
New Census Data: From 2005 to 2007, New York, New Jersey Counties Rank Highest in Property Tax on Homeowners; Louisiana Parishes Rank Lowest
American Community Survey Data Now Includes Three-Year Averages in Places with Populations Greater than 20,000
Washington, DC, December 15, 2008 – New data released today by the Census Bureau show that over a three-year period (2005, 2006 and 2007) average homeowners in New York and New Jersey counties paid the most in property taxes while those in Louisiana parishes paid the least.
In Tax Foundation Fiscal Fact No. 157, “New Census Data on Property Taxes on Homeowners,” Tax Foundation Senior Economist Gerald Prante and Analyst Mark Robyn use newly updated Census data from the 2007 American Community Survey (ACS) to rank counties across the country according to various property tax measures.
“The ACS will still be providing annual estimates of hundreds of variables for those places with populations greater than 65,000,” Prante and Robyn explain. “However, it is also publishing estimates for places whose population exceeds 20,000, albeit on a three-year average basis.”
For a chart of real restate taxes paid on owner-occupied housing for each of the more than 1,800 countries with populations greater than 20,000 for the years 2005, 2006 and 2006, see the following Tax Foundation web sites: http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/24052.html for the complete table of rankings of median real estate taxes paid by dollar amount, and http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/24051.html for rankings by median real estate taxes as a percentage of the median home value and as a percentage of the median income for household-owning units.
Fiscal Fact No. 157 can be found at: http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/24053.html.
The first two tables show a list of the top 20 counties ranked by two different measures: by actual dollar value and as a percentage of median home value:
Top 20 Counties in Median Real Estate Taxes as a Percentage of Median Home Value
2005-2007 Average
(Population of 20,000 or More)
County
State
Median Real Estate Taxes as a Percentage of Median Home Value
Rank
Orleans County
New York
3.05%
1
Niagara County
New York
2.90%
2
Allegany County
New York
2.87%
3
Montgomery County
New York
2.86%
4
Monroe County
New York
2.84%
5
Wayne County
New York
2.74%
6
Cortland County
New York
2.69%
7
Genesee County
New York
2.69%
8
Chautauqua County
New York
2.67%
9
Livingston County
New York
2.61%
10
Fort Bend County
Texas
2.57%
11
Erie County
New York
2.56%
12
Onondaga County
New York
2.56%
13
Seneca County
New York
2.52%
14
Oswego County
New York
2.50%
15
Wyoming County
New York
2.49%
16
Fulton County
New York
2.47%
17
Cayuga County
New York
2.46%
18
Chemung County
New York
2.44%
19
Schenectady County
New York
2.43%
20
No need to selectively edit the post. It supports my claim and you need to stop the dishonesty.
Now why does the “entertainment district” need more of our taxes when they told the public that financing would be funded by special use taxes and NOT any other sources, like another TIRZ that is asking the county, school district and the city to participate????