One Speaker At Final Public Hearing For Sugar Land Tax Rate
October 22nd, 2009 | by Jamie Mock | Published in News | 121 Comments
There was only one speaker at Sugar Land’s last public hearing regarding the tax rate, and while the speaker does not live in the city, she owns two Sugar Land homes.
Nancy Hentschel, a New Territory resident, expressed concern that the city is “raising taxes in a time when our community and our nation are suffering some real economic setbacks.”
Sugar Land City Council will vote Nov. 3 on a tax rate of $0.30 per $100 of property value – the same tax rate as last year. The city was required to hold two public hearings on the tax rate because the effective tax rate was lower than last year’s tax rate.
The effective tax rate is the amount of tax a city has to levy in order to generate the same amount of revenue as the previous year. Generally, when property values increase the effective tax rate decreases, which was the case in Sugar Land, with an effective tax rate this year of a little more than $0.29.
A resident with the average residential value of $255,557 and a 7 percent homestead exemption will see a 2009 tax bill of $766.67, an increase of $35.54 compared to the average 2008 tax bill of $731.13, which is based on the average value of $243,710 and a 7 percent homestead exemption.
Hentschel also spoke about rising homeowner association dues.
“…We have a problem, and raising taxes and raising annual dues for 80 percent of the people who live here…this is hurting people,” said Hentschel. “It may only hurt 10 percent of the people dramatically, but it is hurting people. It’s not a neighborly thing to do and it’s also not an economically intelligent thing to do.”
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:45 pm (#)
Aren’t the starting to annex New Territory and Greatwood? Why shouldn’t people living in areas being annexed speak up or if they are in the ETJ?
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:56 pm (#)
“There was only one speaker at Sugar Land’s last public hearing regarding the tax rate, and according to the address given to council, she isn’t a Sugar Land resident.”
How embarrassing!
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:03 pm (#)
So you are saying that those who are about to be annexed don’t have a right to speak up? Weren’t you the one telling people to go to the hearing and speak-up…….you are so funny crony-toadie…..LOL
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:06 pm (#)
Those who’s taxes haven’t gone up shouldn’t claim they have, especially if they aren’t even paying SL taxes in the first place. Are you sure that wasn’t you in a wig??
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:13 pm (#)
You sure are making another unsupported statement about a real person charlie. You know nothing about their financial situation…..and are pulling it out of your rump again.
Tax Protest Group Brings Out Crowd For Second Mass Meeting
June 10th, 2009 | by John Pape | Published in News
People from literally across Fort Bend County, and even beyond, filled the Irene Stern Community Center in Fulshear Tuesday night to take part in Citizens Against High Tax Appraisals’ second mass meeting to protest skyrocketing property valuations in parts of the county.
–Your right, no one is concerned about higher property taxes….hahaha
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:14 pm (#)
Yep you sure are right…..LOL
“Property Values - And Taxes - Set To Rise Again This Year In Fort Bend Despite Dismal Market
Fort Bend County landowners - many of whom were irate over appraisals and property taxes that shot up in 2008 despite a dismal national real [...]
March 5th, 2009 | Published in News”
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:19 pm (#)
Mary K-Are we talking about SL? Do you see the title up top?
The taxes didn’t go up. Period.
Do you really think copy/pasting the same things over and over and over is helping you? It makes you look like the
South end of a Northbound horse, FYI. ha
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:21 pm (#)
Let’s see, if we have tax rate increases almost every year with subsequent appraisal increases…..well you get the picture charlie. Now if you post in the open we can see what you did and didn’t pay each year for the last decade or so (just to see if you are being truthful, because we know you always tell the truth in here…hahahaha)….but explain this too me, how can you possibly defend record debt (more borrowing), double-digit appraisal increases, coupled with spending increases and tell me what it fiscally conservative about any of that when the market has dipped and we’re in a recession???
Yep, just what I thought. The cronyz aren’t conservative, they just say they are and hope everyone believes it.
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:23 pm (#)
CHANGE BAD! CHANGE BAD! No tax or appraisal increase EVER!
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:24 pm (#)
“A resident with the average residential value of $255,557 and a 7 percent homestead exemption will see a 2009 tax bill of $766.67, an increase of $35.54 compared to the average 2008 tax bill of $731.13, which is based on the average value of $243,710 and a 7 percent homestead exemption.”
You must have missed the last paragraph. The state requires a hearing when an actual increase has occurred. Remember you forgot to use the spin words “rate” versus ” ad valorem taxes” (appraised value)…..see that 11% article to understand more charlie….lol
No time for more lessons on this…
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:24 pm (#)
so calvin today are you a liberal or a progressive or a conservative?
I’m betting you’re a closet Marxist.
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:25 pm (#)
What was the tax rate for SL for the past decade? Surely you realize how low $.30 is, right? but again, why should you care, you don’t even live here. You are just bored and looking for something to whine about.
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:26 pm (#)
OMG!! A $35.00 increase! OMG!!! OMG!! What are we going to do!? Foreclosure is emminent!! *rolling eyes*
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:27 pm (#)
While you are looking up the word ‘threat’ in the dioctionary since you obviously don’t know what it means, better go ahead and look up ‘average’ as well.
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:30 pm (#)
Sorry charlie, you were the one claiming there was no increase….you really need to support your statements you throw around. Here’s another good one below for you and apparently in this one you were supporting the protesters? Now you don’t….I think anyone who speaks up deserves our gratitude. It is very difficult to stand in front of some of these staged dog-n-pony shows. I’m proud of anyone who does…..and once again weren’t you encouraging people to go on these threads not long ago…..yes, you can’t pay for entertainment like this….;- ]
PS –Huge Backlog Of Property Appraisal Protests Will Cause Tax Bills, Budgets To Be Late
Fort Bend County property owners may not see their tax bills until mid-October or possibly much later because of a backlog of thousands of people [...]
August 4th, 2009 | Published in News
And what does this post mean charlie. Are you supporting or criticizing all those protesting…hahaha
“MEGABITE says:
August 5th, 2009 at 9:28 am (#)
Hmmm, I wonder why there are so many protests…hmmmm”
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:33 pm (#)
Yes, I admire the people that speak up when they think they’re being wronged instead of just whining on the
internet. That is so much easier.
Hey stalker, why don’t you provide the context of the quote?
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:34 pm (#)
Surely you know saving peoples’ internet postings isn’t normal
behavior, right?? coo coo coo coo
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:39 pm (#)
Moron–if you go to the search function and plug in the title it will pull the article for you and you can jog your memory. I’m sure we can find more gems like that charlie (”VI”)….man this is fun….you are way to easy. When did you corpocrats stop believing in free and open markets and democracy? When did you start selling out the constitution for globalization?
Just curious?
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:43 pm (#)
I assumed you save my postings like you do FBC’s, nutcase.
All that yada yada about selling out is all bovine excrement sensationalism to try and prove your nonexistent point.
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:44 pm (#)
“Huge Backlog Of Property Appraisal Protests Will Cause Tax Bills, Budgets To Be Late
Fort Bend County property owners may not see their tax bills until mid-October or possibly much later because of a backlog of thousands of people [...]
August 4th, 2009 | Published in News”
You really need to read this article again charlie (wadefishin/johnbernardbooks/ftbendconman/charlie/noodlz/vice
lT/etc…)–Kinda makes one wonder why Charlie Howard, Bob Hebert, Allen Owen and several others in your pol. machine oppose CAD & rate caps? At least until you look at their campaign finance reports and see where our tax dollars are really going.
I believe the county had over 40 million in no bid contracts last year and the school district had over 15 million, but what’s a million here or there between friends, right…hahahaha
…Stay tuned for more….
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:46 pm (#)
And BTW, brainiac “No posts found”
What’s really pathetic is how much time
it took you to dig it up. Talk about
no life. ha
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:47 pm (#)
Why does the county and SL/MC city governments hire lobbyist, on our dime, to oppose combined caps charlie?
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:48 pm (#)
Oh I see your back to the MC rants again. That’s typical.
Vendetta.
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:48 pm (#)
I don’t know, why don’t you show up at a council meeting and ask them? Try not to get thrown out this time tho.
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:50 pm (#)
Are you having trouble using the search function “VI”/charlie????
–Answer the questions, what are you afraid of?
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:50 pm (#)
I used it and nothing was found, Ira.
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:51 pm (#)
I’ve never been thrown out of a public meeting, ever? So wherever you are pulling that one from is more misinformation. Probably coming from the same source you get most of your empty claims from toadie.
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:51 pm (#)
Better go back and ask what you should say next lackey. hahaha
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:52 pm (#)
I’ll wait…..lol
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:52 pm (#)
Mkay. *wink wink*
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:53 pm (#)
Hold your breath too. haha
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:54 pm (#)
BTW swifty I repeated the search and it pulled the article and comments up immediately. What’s your problem? Just cut and paste it in and you will see your usual hypocritical post contradicting what you are doing in here….please explain for anyone still reading this, because I already know your game charlie….hahaha
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:57 pm (#)
Guess it mysteriously works for you
“No posts found. Try a different search?”
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:58 pm (#)
Give me the link, Keyboard Commando…
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:01 pm (#)
Here’s a great quote from that article by Bobby boy, ““Right now the slowest ship in our little tax convoy is the CAD.”—Maybe he should of said our huge tax convoy….hahaha
What a great quote for our fearless leader and vendor feeder (how’s that rhyme)….lol
–Kinda makes one wonder why supposed conservatives Charlie Howard, Bob Hebert, Allen Owen and several others in your pol. machine oppose CAD & rate caps? At least until you look at their campaign finance reports and see where our tax dollars are really going.
I believe the county had over 40 million in no bid contracts last year and the school district had over 15 million, but what’s a million here or there between friends, right…hahahaha
…And that does not take into account all the diverted dollars, abatements, special zones, etc….
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:04 pm (#)
Welcome to FortBentWhiner.com everybody!
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:06 pm (#)
As you already know dummy the site holds linked pieces. You are very slow at this aren’t you….hahaha
Here’s more…..
“May 20th, 2009 | by Bob Dunn | Published in News | 4 Comments
Despite the national real estate crunch, a preliminary valuation of all Fort Bend County property by the county Central Appraisal District shows a total of $42.2 billion - up 10.8% from last year….”
Don’t forget to thank your boyz for us…There is more than one gang operating in this community….hahahaha
& more
Tax Foundation Study Again Hits Fort Bend County Hard For High Property Taxes
January 29th, 2009 | by Bob Dunn | Published in News | 11 Comments
The Tax Foundation has released new Census Bureau data showing Fort Bend County standing alone among a sea of New York counties, all painted as having the nation’s highest property taxes.
The list, titled “Top 20 Counties in Median Real Estate Taxes as a Percentage of Median Home Value, includes Fort Bend at No. 11. Every other county is from New York.
–I wish I could do your search for you, but I’m over here, not in your rental trailer….hahaha…I see now how you paid less in taxes than the rest of us….LOL
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:08 pm (#)
Yawnnnn. You keep copy/pasting the same things over and over. Do you really think we actually read them over and over? Not too bright, are ya?
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:12 pm (#)
Actually toadie, these are news articles and I’m asking questions, but you can label it whatever you like since apparently you have no problem with record borrowing (debt), tax and spend…..didn’t you defend the $30 million dollar “Global Taj Mahal” and subsequent FBISD tax increases this year and last????
What did you think about Charlie Howards duplicity in that record bond debt and ‘08 rate increase, followed with another ‘09 increase????
Something else in the above article is interesting is the HOA dues going up along with the taxes….now why would they need to do that???? More foreclosures because of the predatory lending practices that went on. You know giving loans to people that couldn’t afford them in mass and calling them “alternative mortgages” instead of high risk mortgages?
Oh, I forgot, that’s the suckers fault and not the predators….
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:14 pm (#)
What’s wrong you still haven’t figured out how to do a search….hahaha….are you really a conservative or just posing as one…do you even know what fiscal & constitutional conservatism means as appled? Free and open markets??? Anti-trust???..etc…..LOL
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:15 pm (#)
OMG! The Sky is falling! The sky is falling, people!! RUNNNNN!!!
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:18 pm (#)
“MEGABITE says:
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:08 pm (#)…Do you really think we actually read them…”
Since you asked and you are the only one in here right now I would have to say no you can’t read…HAHAHA
–I had to. You open yourself up way to much toadie.
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:23 pm (#)
It must really suck to be so negative all the time and dwell
on the fallacy that public officials are all out to get you (except that angel Gary of course) Man, I would go crazy if taxes and appraisals and eveil city council members and crooked Mayors and Tax Foundations consumed by every waking thought.
Me, I’m going to go for a jog and then go have a nice meal and a couple of beers while watching the baseball game now. CYA haha
Life is good.
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:25 pm (#)
Nothing but more ad hominem…..too bad. How about I e-mail you the answers and you can post them and then we can actually debate something, since you seem intellectually challenged. Don’t worry I will give you some good responses.
Like for the lobbyist comment and CAD/rate caps we could say that they are more concerned with growing their budgets and feeding the special interest than the families, homeowners, taxpayers and voters whom carrying this fabricated burden.
Or every year they talk about shrinking government, but only manage double-digit budget growth (except this year when they threw the party on our dime….hahaha)….
–You try one….LOL
PS Keep trying, you’ll figure out that search engine yet…..;-)
PPS Factual and truthful is neither negative or positive, besides the humor is at your expense and is IMO very positive rotflmao…..
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:43 pm (#)
FYI, I just did a search on the county website and apparently Ms. Hentschel, the speaker against the tax increase, owns several homes. One in NT and two inside the city limits of SL in First Colony and Avalon. So it looks like she has every right to speak at the council and it also appears she is paying quite a bit in property taxes to them also. I wonder if the city PR department she supports with those taxes was the one that put out the misinformation spin on her???
Pist charlie, you can do this search too, I know you can….hahahaha
October 22nd, 2009 at 6:21 pm (#)
Mega, He’s his own worst enemy this why I keep him posting
Can you imagine the candidates he supports when they read his
trite drivel? Its so pathetic when they posts on their blogs
he grovels for a pat on the head and most ignore the crazy blogger. Its really pathetic to watch.
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:55 pm (#)
charlie, don’t you think you’ve already proven what an “idiot” you are. You are going to keep the charade going even longer? And stop talking to yourself fbc/mega (singular), you haven’t fooled anyone (besides you only have one other post in this thread unless you forgot you were trying to convince us that mega wasn’t you)……transparent toadie….hahaha
Now apologize as the crony rep for attempting to spread more lies about the tax protester in this article. They do own property and pay more in taxes than you “VI”. I know it must be hard trying to keep up with your lies, but at least give it a minimal try (pist, and defending multiple tax increases, record borrowing and spending is not conservative anything moron)……tell your buddies Allen Owen, Bob Hebert and Charlie Howard that too and tell them to stop opposing appraisal caps and rate caps (you see they do no good if you have one without the other vendor feeder)…..
Now go soak your teeth. It isn’t safe to sleep with them in over night….. : ^ }
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:26 pm (#)
more education for our troll
Nancy Hentschel is a uberliberal running for the board of KPFT the left leaning radio station that devours taxpayer dollars each year. Hentschel speaking out against taxes is about as credible as Obama saying the isn’t one dime in Obamacare for illegals.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:37 pm (#)
You sure like to make them up. You were calling Morrison and liberal too and attacking Stansell, Hilton and a dozen others from your own party. You wadefishin are not credible.
Ms. Hentschel is a fiscal conservative and social moderate. If you google her you will find a long list of pro-taxpayer stances, not just this one before the SL council. She was one of many that spoke against the school districts tax increase this year in 2009 and she was able to get the Texas Attorney General (who must be a another liberal in your book) to order the superintendent to turn over all the Global Science & Technology Center records. She went on point and faced the attacks along with numerous others regarding this 30 million dollars duplicate vendor feeding project.
Google a little more and you will find her a staunch property rights advocate……yes I guess in a govt vendor defenders mind anyone that opposes tax increases, wasteful spending, record bond debt (top ten in the state), corporate welfare must be a “liberal”?
Why do you always defend the taxpayers enemies charlie (”wadefishin/jbb/johnbernardbooks/ftbendconman/viceLT/noodlz”)???
Stop lying for a few minutes…..and do your homework for a change….just because she pays much more in taxes than you doesn’t mean she wouldn’t listen to you too. She would probably work to keep your taxes down too……..well, maybe not….hahaha
Now “liberal” tax, borrow and spender, go soak your teeth!!!
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:43 pm (#)
“There was only one speaker at Sugar Land’s last public hearing regarding the tax rate, and while the speaker does not live in the city, she owns two Sugar Land homes.”
Thank you to fortbendnow for correcting some of the earlier misinformation that was contained in paragraph one. It is just too bad that someone from the city would feel the need to discredit a SL city taxpayer, especially when they have every right to speak up at a public session. Besides the city is in the process of annexing New Territory. Don’t those people have a right to speak before their future mayor and council?
They really shouldn’t turn their communications department lose on their own people. After-all they get paid with their money too……
Way to go Ms. Hentschel. Keep speaking up for the rest of us! (except the official site vendor feeding troll monkey)…
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:58 pm (#)
troll a fiscal conservative does not support the use of federal tax dollars to run a liberal radio station like KPFT.
I know the concept is hard for you to grasp.
Morrison is a liberal Environmental Lawyer who ran on being against toll roads but voted FOR toll roads..
I know its hard for you to grasp
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:05 pm (#)
Lying some more charlie….? Morrison voted for local control, not for building a toll road. It is your buddies Bob Hebert, Allen Owen that accept the vendor feeding monies and vote on projects. As a matter of fact that is your clique you keep lying for….
You attacked Gary yesterday who voted twice against property tax increases in MC, you attack anyone, republican, independent, democrat, libertarian that opposes your special interest edc boys who regularly feed off our taxes for their membership and you constantly defend it.
Anyone who makes statements like these has ZERO credibility…..zip, zero, zilch….too bad your crony-boy of the toll road commission was defeated. Now all you can do is lie about who defeated him….
For more on ftbendconman, see:
He simply can’t help but make scummy statements like these below (it is in his nature):
“FtBendConservative/charlie says: September 4th, 2009 at 8:36 pm (#) SillyAnthony don’t you have some little old ladies to kneecap?
« JohnBernardBooks/charlie wrote on Monday, Jun 30 at 06:45 AM » Joe do you even know how to be positive? I’m sorry if life is so bad for you…maybe you’ll ened it all soon?”
« JohnBernardBooks/charlie wrote on Saturday, May 24 at 06:13 AM »
“…are teachers the biggest whiners are what….they have a cush job…very little stress and all they do is bitch. Try working in a real job where you actually have to produce a product…
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:07 pm (#)
Lying some more charlie….? Morrison voted for local control, not for building a toll road. It is your buddies Bob Hebert, Allen Owen that accept the vendor feeding monies and vote on projects. As a matter of fact that is your clique you keep lying for….
You attacked Gary yesterday who voted twice against property tax increases in MC, you attack anyone, republican, independent, democrat, libertarian that opposes your special interest edc boys who regularly feed off our taxes for their membership and you constantly defend it.
Anyone who makes statements like these has ZERO credibility…..zip, zero, zilch….too bad your crony-boy of the toll road commission was defeated. Now all you can do is lie about who defeated him….
For more on ftbendconman, see:
charlie wrote on staturday, May 24 at 6:13 AM …are teachers the biggest whiners are what….they have a cush job…very little stress and all they do is bitch…”
Nope “village idiot” this is who you are….a hired troll by the pol machine….LOL
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:11 pm (#)
More lies from an uncredible liar (not incredible)…….you attacked Tom Campbell (a staunch conservative, Tom Hilton a reform republican, Dr. Ron Paul, Kevin Tunstall and many, many other conservatives….you attacked professor Gary yesterday for voting against increases in 2007 and 2009…..nope, you are the liar and the one that needs to stop defending the edc crony network jerk.
And while you are at it stop telling people to go “kneecap old ladies…” conman, you see its statements like that wadefishin-charlie-boy that insure no one believes you.
Happy trolling old man……….keep lying!!!
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:41 pm (#)
2. Dishonest Megabite conitnue to expand misjudgement against taxpayer( Nancy) . She owns two houses an pays SugarLand city taxes. So, she has every right to speak at sL council meetings.
October 23rd, 2009 at 4:58 am (#)
I suspect most landlords are intelligent enough to pass expenses such as repairs and taxes on to their renters. I’m just saying….
I love to watch liberals try to hide as conservatives.
ie Arlen Spincter, Olympia SnoweJob and SusieQ Collins all claim to be fiscally conservative and socially liberal. All 3vote dem 55% of the time and all 3 supported the huge Obama spendalous package, but they’re FISCAL CONSERVATIVES!
Viewpoint are you too a fiscally conservative?
How’s that Nick Lampson thing working out for you fiscal conservatives?
If you give money to dems, blockwalk for dems and support liberal environmental toll road loving lawyers and claim to be a conservative…..I’m making fun of you.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:42 am (#)
Hello All,
I can only say that I have been to two of Sugar Land’s Council meetings concerning the tax increase (no I am not a resident of Sugar Land, but have an interest in how Fort Bend is spending taxpayer money). Two weeks ago no one stepped forward at the meeting, but this week Ms. Hentschel stepped forward to question the tax move.
I can also tell you that there is a lot of taxpayer dollars that will be spent to rejuvenate or make Sugar Land the “beacon” of Fort bend County…
Councilwoman Chaumet was correct to “pass/abstain” on a vote concerning some of the proposed spending, even I had my had a frown and an eyebrow up. I believe that likewise it was a correct move by Councilwoman Lenton-Gary.
Listen, we have to hear the whole story and get the full picture as to what are the motives of some of our elected officials as they attempt to pour out taxpayers money for every little “project” under the guise that is “good for the City”. Heck, last I heard COMMUNITIES make-up the “City”…What ever happened to the “for the good of the COMMUNITIES?”
Just My Observations!
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:10 am (#)
They are keeping the tax rate the same but increasing the homestead exemptions. For example, businesses are being taxed more as the residents get a break. The valuations are going up which means more taxes total, but that is really a CAD issue and the state amendments up for vote this year should help. I would think they could lower the rate too, but as a homeowner, happy they increased the homestead exemption.
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:20 am (#)
Wasn’t there a “City” or school district that tried to make a controversial move that would have become a very bad precedent for Homestead Exemptions through out the state?
Just My Observation!
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:49 am (#)
TEXAS HOMEOWNER TAXES - IMPORTANT
NOV 3rd, PLEASE VOTE “NO” to Prop. 2 and 3 (HJR 36)?
Just My Observation!
October 25th, 2009 at 7:23 am (#)
In some minds not wanting to pay taxes make them a fiscal comservative. Tim Geitner didn’t want to pay taxes and didn’t. Tom Daschle disn’t want to pay taxes and didn’t. Are they fiscal conservatives? No they’re liberals dems who didn’t pay their taxes.
My question is if you worship Obama, love single payer insurance and don’t want to pay taxes are you a fiscal conservative?
October 25th, 2009 at 2:52 pm (#)
Conser1, the FBISD, county governments along with those other east end municipal governments needed to hear this speech too.
PS Not sure who the fake conservative (charlie) is talking about, but wasn’t Geitner appointed under Bush and pushed the banking and insurance company bailout and initiated the nationalization process that is still going on under the current admin? I also wonder why he continues to defend actions like these that place more companies on the government payroll and continue to increase our taxes. Sorta like those local corporate welfare boys he keeps defending as they get the GFBCEDC ordered abatements, special taxing zones, TIRZs and other special interest treatments as they prop up a small handful of crony-politicians that push wasteful spending projects like the “GSTC”, TTC (under its new name) and those 15+ million in NO-BID contracts at the school district level and the 40+ million in NO-BID contracts at the county level……interesting what charlie, our ftbendconman/wadefishin/corporate welfare toadie, sees as conservative. Corporate welfare and socialization of multiple industries is not. Nor is our tax dollars being funneled to either of the two largest parties to keep this “pay to play” system going.
But that’s our “village idiot”……..oh well….lol
October 25th, 2009 at 6:01 pm (#)
let me dumb the question down so even the Phd Edus get it,
“If you worship Obama,
if you love single payer insurance @ a $trillion$ price tag,
and don’t want to pay any taxes but want all the services
are you a fiscal conservative? um um um Obama
October 26th, 2009 at 4:41 am (#)
Well, FtBendConservative, let me dumb this down for you: if you like the run away train of the merciless, escalating cost of medical insurance coverage without looking at avenues to streamline the efficiency to curb the runway cost of the present insurance rates and in the process, apply due diligence to streamline the entirety of how we as a country do our medical business of medical coverage of the United States of American people, and, to thus use the savings to pay for reform cost without taxing the taxpayer, then, are you truly a fiscal conservative?
October 26th, 2009 at 7:31 am (#)
FS you have anger issues.
Who said fiscal conservatives want escalating medical insurance costs? You did.
Lower costs is one of the reasons Texas passed tort reform. A major reason Doctors are now returning to Texas to practice.
FS if you don’t want to look so silly please get your facts straight before attacking fiscal conservatives.
October 26th, 2009 at 8:01 am (#)
Factually, our official fake conservative government vendor feeding troll (singular), does what he always engages in via his thread diversions in his #58 post (notice the attempt to shift a local property taxing issue to the national healthcare debate).
This article was about a speaker who brought up the very local issue of spiraling property taxes and how governments and their vendors (along with some HOAs) are feeding off their own. I think it made a very valid point, but we watch as the “govt vendor boyz” attack her and others that have spoken up against the wasteful spending, borrowing and increased taxing to cover their growing budgets and vendor feeding projects. Initially all the troll could do is claim the speaker wasn’t paying any taxes in SL, which later was refuted when the story was updated to report that the speaker had several properties she owned in SL and also was in the process of being annexed by SL (New Territory).
Next, he didn’t like the position he chose to defend so his tactics changed to attack the commenter. When that didn’t take, he decided to bring in the thread diversion with the national healthcare debate knowing that it is a polarization issue just like abortion. You see the special interest like to use these to get people back in line behind their party hacks, rather than working together to get our county out of the top position in Texas for property taxes (per median home value) thanks to this interest group lead by people like Howard and Hebert. They must keep us looking at the other shell always, while the pea isn’t under any of them.
These are the typical circular, often off topic, tactics of our troll (some call him the “village idiot”). Hopefully we can just redirect it back on the article thread topic and not feed his posturing and continued lies about others here. Over the last week he has attacked those not in his special interest vendor feeding network whether they are republican, independent, democrat or other and what is really funny is he was attacking those opposing major area tax increases and spending during a recession.
He calls himself a conservative. I just call him a vendor feeding fake. It is hilarious witnessing him label and libel those seeking spending reductions and lower taxes while calling them “liberals” You would think in his world that the sky is green and the ground is blue, but that’s the life of a political troll.
October 26th, 2009 at 8:21 am (#)
yada yada yada crony
blag blag blah troll
yada yada yada fake conservative
October 26th, 2009 at 8:29 am (#)
“santhony says:
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:21 pm (#)
tell me what it fiscally conservative about any of that when the market has dipped and we’re in a recession???”
troll you brought up the words fiscally conservative and took the thread off topic. I’m just asking if you even know what a fiscal conservative is?
Is it someone who worships Obama
Loves single payer and its $trillion$ price tag
and don’t want to pay any taxes but want all the services
are you a fiscal conservative? um um um Obama
not wanting to pay taxes doesn’t make you a fiscal conservative, see the examples I’ve provided.
Troll don’t let the facts get in the way of your accusations, what fun is that?
October 26th, 2009 at 8:46 am (#)
We have two nonprofit “Public” radio stations. Both NPR 88.7 FM and KPFT 90.1 FM are free of advertisements and entirely dependent on public support. For this reason, they are true free speech zones. Those who listen to the programing on these stations get an unbiased, NON-Rupert Murdock centered view of local and national concerns. Those who listen to “public radio” are usually considered “informed,” but the less informed call them “left-wing liberals”
I especially enjoy 90.1 FM “Democracy Now” at 8:00AM and 5:00PM everyday.
October 26th, 2009 at 8:53 am (#)
Looks like everyone is still feeding the troll!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:05 am (#)
Unbiased? HA
October 26th, 2009 at 9:08 am (#)
They are unbiased and not dependent on corporate brain washing for support, however, Megamouth may not have a brain to wash.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:11 am (#)
You’re full of it if you think it’s unbiased. Of course you don’t even know the meaning of the word, so…
October 26th, 2009 at 9:11 am (#)
They do play some good Blues on Sundays, I will give them that.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:19 am (#)
I cannot believe someone like you would be caught dead listening to real news. Public Radio would only confuse you.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:22 am (#)
You don’t even know what real news is.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:24 am (#)
and FYI, I get my news from literally dozens of sources so quit pretending to know where I get my news. You’re only
making a bigger fool of yourself than usual.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:28 am (#)
apparently not… but might I suggest you get some of your news from
http://www.aldaily.com/
?
It might short circuit your small mind, or hopefully inform you better than your crack addiction to your Faux News.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:35 am (#)
I like the earlier advice given about not feeding the nasty little faux conservative vendor feeding troll Patriot. He obviously intended to derail this thread from the original local issue of rising property taxes. You see they have the most to lose if their single bid vendor corps edc-cartel have a tax revolt in this county.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:39 am (#)
Property taxes didn’t rise. Do you have a reading comprehension problem?
October 26th, 2009 at 9:40 am (#)
“…the same rate as last year.” Quit your incessant whining for once. It’s beyond old.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:47 am (#)
Patriot–The “village idiot” (charlie, our vendor feeding troll) had to clarify and add post #77 realizing the statement from his #76, “Property taxes didn’t rise. ” was once again incorrect given the quote from the story above and the fact that the public hearings were required by the state because taxes actually did increase, “A resident with the average residential value of $255,557 and a 7 percent homestead exemption will see a 2009 tax bill of $766.67, an increase of $35.54 compared to the average 2008 tax bill…”
Naturally, if he was going to continue to use the rhetoric of smoke-screen correctly he should have claimed only no rate increase was implemented, but he couldn’t even execute that strategy either. rotflmao
October 26th, 2009 at 9:49 am (#)
Get back to us when you learn how to read.
“The city was required to hold two public hearings on the tax rate because the effective tax rate was lower than last year’s tax rate.”
October 26th, 2009 at 9:51 am (#)
BTW, I actually live in SL. Do you? Surely you aren’t sitting on the fence post crowing about something you have no first hand knowledge of? NO WAY!! I’m shocked. *rolling eyes*
It’s just something to whine about so you can read your own writing on the internet.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:52 am (#)
OUR TAXES ROSE by corporate and cartel design. This clever manipulation of assessed property “value” with tax “rate” can be used indefinitely without “calling it” a tax increase. With all of our taxes taken together, we probably pay more than France and we don’t have the health-care coverage!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:54 am (#)
BS. Speak for yourself. Do YOU live in SL?
October 26th, 2009 at 9:55 am (#)
Here we go with the ridiculous cartel nonsense again.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:55 am (#)
By the way, the city is required to hold THREE tax increase hearings. We have had TWO. Are you trying to mislead people as usual? Others need to come out for the final hearing!!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:56 am (#)
By all means, come to the next one and stand up to make a fool of yourself. By all means, come! ha
October 26th, 2009 at 9:57 am (#)
Wait, do you even live in SL?
October 26th, 2009 at 10:03 am (#)
Patriot–our ignorant little troll will continue to attempt his lame word-smithing, but no one is fooled by it. Next, when that doesn’t work, because the article makes it clear actual taxes increased for homeowners, he will attack the posters pretending none of them have a vested interest in the property tax increases that went up by nearly 11% across the county with subsequent increases during a recession in MC, SL, FBISD and the county. We’ve posted before on the massive duplicate spending projects and other vendor feeding activity, but he continues to make trivial responses, which do nothing to address the problem. It is entertaining to watch him “crawfish” as he likes to say after he urged others to go speak.
Don’t you just love these vendor feeder-boyz…..they are the real problem regardless of party. We need to get rid of the no-bid vendor toadie troll in here. Naturally all those multi-taxing entities participating in SL TIRZs don’t impact us either. So yes, whether they live in SL or own property or not, if they live in the county their budgets are being impacted and if they eat in the city or get gas they are paying taxes too. I might add that SL has a pretty high sales tax rate too compared to the rest of TX. Gotta luv these crony-boyz….they hide out in any party because for them it isn’t about the party principles, it is about feeding their vendor boyz….that’s it…..LOL
PS Keep smoking ‘em out!
October 26th, 2009 at 10:06 am (#)
Talking about a troll is the same as feeding it.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:06 am (#)
No property tax increase for me. Stop the lying. Plus, YOU don’t even live in SL so you don’t even have a dog in the fight, loser. You’re just looking to whine so you can read your own writing on the internet. Talk about pathetic! WOW
October 26th, 2009 at 10:06 am (#)
You should be REALLY full by now, Tabor.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:07 am (#)
No one is feeding the spamming troll. I just wonder how much he get’s paid to disrupt these forums?
October 26th, 2009 at 10:08 am (#)
PS, SA troll, if you don’t like SL’s sales tax, stay out. We don’t want you here anyway.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:08 am (#)
“A resident with the average residential value of $255,557 and a 7 percent homestead exemption will see a 2009 tax bill of $766.67, an increase of $35.54 compared to the average 2008 tax bill …”
No more needs be said, besides someone renting a trailer doesn’t pay property taxes. hahaha
October 26th, 2009 at 10:09 am (#)
Spamming? Add that to the list of words you don’t know the meaning of. They must give away diplomas in boxes of Cracker Jacks nowadays. ha
October 26th, 2009 at 10:10 am (#)
“Sugar Land City Council will vote Nov. 3 on a tax rate of $0.30 per $100 of property value – the same tax rate as last year. The city was required to hold two public hearings on the tax rate because the effective tax rate was lower than last year’s tax rate.”
October 26th, 2009 at 10:11 am (#)
I guess the taxes must be LOW in Jane L’s little utopia. Not even a peep about them.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:12 am (#)
What’s with the Jane L anyway? Do you secretly want to be a woman? YUK
October 26th, 2009 at 10:16 am (#)
Now charlie, our lone-bid vendor feeding tax-borrow-spend troll, reverts to his previous pattern of spamming the site to stop any legit conversation. I think they call it diarrhea mouth…..hahaha
October 26th, 2009 at 10:19 am (#)
Charlie? Who’s that?
You should be concerned with the tax rate in your town. WOW! Talk about HIGH!
October 26th, 2009 at 10:20 am (#)
They DID raise theirs this year. Why do you only whine about SL and MC?
October 26th, 2009 at 10:30 am (#)
Once again talking out his bottom Patriot. Making assumptions about what others are or are not paying in taxes rather than addressing the article and the generally accepted view that we are one of the most highly taxed counties in TX per median home value.
I know, it doesn’t serve his no-bid vendor bosses who pay him to sit in here and disrupt these threads.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:34 am (#)
Assumptions? It’s right there in black and white. They raised taxes, unlike SL. IF you think you’re being taxed too much in
FBC, move. Whining on an internet messageboard does absolutely 0 good.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:35 am (#)
No one is getting paid to expose your constant lies. I do it for free. 8^)
October 26th, 2009 at 10:49 am (#)
I see our “village idiot liberal tax, borrow and spender government vendor defender-toadie” is still vomiting on the threads. Someone e-mail me when he decides to stop. If he doesn’t let’s all e-mail the site admins and let them know the is hogging the blog as is his neocon norm.
Now to get this back on topic:
Tax Foundation Study Again Hits Fort Bend County Hard For High Property Taxes
January 29th, 2009 | by Bob Dunn
…Fort Bend County has fared poorly in Tax Foundation studies for the past several years.
Almost two years ago to the day, the foundation released Census data showing Fort Bend at No. 5 on a similar list ranking property taxes as a percentage of median home value, based on 2006 data.
And using just 2007 data, Fort Bend ranked No. 8 on the same list, showing median property taxes of $4,229 paid on a median home value of $168,800 - equaling about 2.5% of that home’s value….
–Yes it would appear that the speaker was right on target as were all those who filed RECORD tax protests with the CAD this year……
October 26th, 2009 at 11:02 am (#)
so SillytrollAnthony if you
worship Obama
love single payer in spite of the $trillion$ price tag
and you dont WANT to pay taxes for services, you’re a fiscal conservative?
SillyTrollAnthony has claimed to be a progressive
then a conservative
now a fiscal conservative but a social liberal
I’m just saying SillyTrollAnthony has no idea what a conservative is.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:04 am (#)
HAHA The resident troll is going to tell on me!? OH NOOOO! haha
October 26th, 2009 at 11:05 am (#)
If you think FBC’s taxes are too high, move.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:14 am (#)
“If he doesn’t let’s all e-mail the site admins”
when you said “lets all” did you mean other posters or did you mean your pseudos?
October 26th, 2009 at 11:23 am (#)
What he needs to realize is this forum isn’t his personal soap box to step up on and whine about taxes of other towns just because he has a vendetta and love to read his own writing.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:45 am (#)
I see charlie (singular) is still vomiting on the thread. Amazing what a neocon corpocrat will do to defend his cronyz free-ride while the rest of us pay and pay and pay for it.
PS You know charlie, you just stay home and others will go out and fight the tax battles without you. Besides trailer renters don’t pay property taxes as you already know AH. hahaha
cor·poc·ra·cy (kôr-pŏk’rə-sē)
n. pl. cor·poc·ra·cies
A society dominated politically and economically by large corporations.
PPS Nope fiscal and constitutional conservatism, free markets and democracy is not corpocracy….lol
October 26th, 2009 at 12:04 pm (#)
I don’t live in a trailer and my name is not Charlie, moron. Are you ever right about anything?
October 26th, 2009 at 12:49 pm (#)
once again the troll demonstrates he has no idea what a fiscal conservative is.
I loved it when he proudly announced to the world “I’m a progressive”…….hahaha what?
October 26th, 2009 at 3:03 pm (#)
…And “corpocrat” charlie (wadefishin/johnbernardbooks/ftbendconman–no-bid government vendor feeder) continues to make-up quotes about other posters that have never existed, but that is his M.O……
Like this one:
“FtBendConservative says: September 4th, 2009 at 8:36 pm (#) SillyAnthony don’t you have some little old ladies to kneecap? –which is a direct quote from a FAKE conservative.
PS No charlie, corporate vendor feeding of our taxes is not conservative dummy…hahaha
October 26th, 2009 at 3:51 pm (#)
uh oh our liberal has his panties in a wad again
October 26th, 2009 at 4:25 pm (#)
Looks like charlie still thinks defending tax, borrow and spending increases across the board is fiscally conservative again. I guess we will have to send him back to poli-sci and basic econ 101 again.
Here is my favorite by one of charlies crony-vendor defender boyz and what the S&P thinks of his financial mgmt of MC:
The S&P report stated: “In our view, the city’s high overlapping tax rates, combined with high overall debt burden from the overlapping school district and many inside-city municipal utility districts (MUDs), preclude a higher rating.”
The report noted that the city’s tax base was expanding and diversifying, and that its tax rate was “stable,” but that the overall tax burden can be “well in excess of $3.70 in some parts of the city.” – Houston Chronicle
Too bad that keeps Owen’s bond rating lower than SLs and keeps them paying more on their borrowed money (AA-)….
PS-keep paying those tax increases charlie-boy for those fat-cat vendors and their bottom land bought at above market prices. You know the ones that contribute to your mayor and several other edc-backed politicians on that council that keep pushing that rate up…..hahaha
October 26th, 2009 at 6:52 pm (#)
finally the rant
feel better whineyboy?
October 26th, 2009 at 7:24 pm (#)
Our taxes are increasing at a fiscally foolish time. Higher property taxes during a time of economic contraction will cause a downward spiral until everyone is involved in the collapsing vortex. Megamouth is like people at the back of the train laughing at the head-on collision of the front of his own train. “We’re all in this thing together whether you have felt it or not, yet.