Fort Bend County Job Growth Ranks Third Among Nation’s Largest Counties
November 4th, 2009 | by Jamie Mock | Published in News | 242 Comments
New numbers from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics show that Fort Bend County had the third highest increase in jobs during the first quarter of this year compared to last year among the nation’s largest 334 counties.
Arlington County, Va., experienced the largest over-the-year percentage increase in employment among the largest counties in the U.S., with a gain of 2.6 percent.
Elkhart County, Ind., located about 100 miles east of Chicago, posted the largest percentage decline, with a loss of 23.4 percent over the year, compared with a national job decrease of 4.2 percent. Nearly 80 percent of the employment decline in Elkhart occurred in manufacturing, which lost 22,100 jobs over the year.
The statistics for Fort Bend County show 1,500 jobs were created, an increase of 1.2 percent.
“That shows you Houston suburbs are still strong…and Fort Bend County is among the leaders,” said Jeff Wiley, president of the Greater Fort Bend Economic Development Council. “I think we have predicted for a long time that we would be the last end of the recession. I think that’s certainly showing to be true here. We were certainly affected, but we were one of the last in, primarily because of the strong energy pricing of last year’s markets that carries into this market.”
Wiley says a strong belief in public/private partnerships has helped job growth in the county, as well as “aggressive outreach” and tax incentives provided by local cities. He noted the lack of property tax in the city of Stafford as well as the tax rate in Sugar Land.
“Our objective has been for people to look at us as a better part of the Houston market,” said Wiley. “We have a growing business district and out own presence in the Houston region that gives everyone everything they want in terms of a live, work, play environment, which is our ultimate objective.”
Wiley named Sugar Land, Katy, Cinco Ranch and “in the future” Sienna Plantation as strong draws to the region.
Job creation in the engineering field related to the energy sector played a role in the increase, but Wiley says some of those jobs will be under pressure later this year as a result of the worldwide economy.
Recently Fluor Corporation in Sugar Land, which has about 3,500 employees, announced the planned layoff of as many as 500 after Fluor’s role in a large overseas energy and chemical project was narrowed.
“Even among the layoffs announced by Fluor, over the last two or three years we have had a significant increase of employees that work at Fluor,” said Wiley. “While we have had the layoffs announced, that’s a blip on otherwise improving employment records for some of our largest employers in the county.”
Wiley says they are keeping a “strong eye” on economic indicators such as natural gas prices, but that the county doesn’t depend on the energy sector alone.
“That’s been proven by the attraction of Minute Maid,” said Wiley, referencing the companies recent move to Sugar Land. “We have an eclectic attraction for opportunities of employers across different business sectors.”
November 4th, 2009 at 9:18 am (#)
People continue to leave NYCity and the state of Calif while Texas/Ft Bend grows. Semms people like our low taxes.
November 4th, 2009 at 9:33 am (#)
I have a friend who is transferring to another Fluor sub out of country. They’ve put their house on the already flooded area resale market. He claimed that they had many more lay-offs than the reported 500. He said it was closer to half the Sugar Land office. If that is true, then the 1500 jobs added last year weren’t nearly enough to compensate. I also just finished reading about the Bechtel lay-offs. This reminds me of when Enron went under. Our neighborhood was hit hard.
Does anyone have the numbers on actual lay-offs in the county since 2007 when the recession began? That will give us a more accurate picture than just the job growth numbers. Last I read the Houston area unemployment was up 2% over last year, but I would like to see the county comparisons for this year and last.
One other side bar, my friend claimed they wouldn’t have reported the 500 jobs lost at Fluor if it hadn’t been required by law.
November 4th, 2009 at 9:36 am (#)
We can’t have any good news on here. We must poo poo it all everytime.
November 4th, 2009 at 9:52 am (#)
I heard some of those same concerns about actual numbers. I think healthy discussion with all the facts is a good thing, not “poo poo”.
November 4th, 2009 at 10:00 am (#)
Let’s see the numbers then. I’ll wait.
November 4th, 2009 at 10:06 am (#)
Are you going to discuss or just troll today? If you are going to discuss, then here’s one from Ch 11 news.
‘A report prepared for the U.S. Conference of Mayors warns the Houston area could lose close to 44,000 thousand jobs this year. It also forecasts that the city could experience an area-wide unemployment rate of 6.6 percent, before the end of 2009.’
November 4th, 2009 at 10:08 am (#)
We aren’t talking about the Houston area, troll. we are talking about FBC. Did you see the title?
November 4th, 2009 at 10:08 am (#)
OMG! The sky is falling (again).
November 4th, 2009 at 10:09 am (#)
Gotta poo poo good news all the time. I know your type.
November 4th, 2009 at 10:09 am (#)
Since when is the 14 area counties which include FBC not part of these numbers. Actually that ch 11 source was low. Here is one from the TWC and HBJ which is current.
‘The unemployment rate for the area was 8.4 percent, unchanged from July but up from 5.2 percent in August 2008.’
November 4th, 2009 at 10:11 am (#)
“New numbers from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics show that Fort Bend County had the third highest increase in jobs during the first quarter of this year compared to last year among the nation’s largest 334 counties.”
November 4th, 2009 at 10:13 am (#)
What’s the unemployment rate for FBC?
November 4th, 2009 at 10:25 am (#)
According to the Texas Workforce Commission (it reports the Sugar Land area average) as 5.1 in Sept. 2008 and as 8.5% as of the last reporting cycle of Sept. 2009.
These are their numbers as reported. I don’t mean to be positive or negative about them, but they are facts. I’m sure of you are one of those unemployed and you pay our property taxes, then it is a negative report form the TWC.
They didn’t list them by county.
November 4th, 2009 at 10:28 am (#)
Link please?
November 4th, 2009 at 10:31 am (#)
Those numbers look right to me based on the local media reports. If they do hold up that is considerably more than the 1500 jobs created in the area over that same period. My friend said they had lost close to that number at Fluor alone.
November 4th, 2009 at 10:33 am (#)
They don’t allow links to go through, but you can find it easily on the TWC main site under their Sept. 2009 report.
November 4th, 2009 at 10:35 am (#)
I found it, nevermind.
November 4th, 2009 at 10:39 am (#)
Thanks cult, I suspected as much. Often we only get partial numbers. As you know the unemployment figures are only accurate for those filing and still eligible. Many rotate off the actual lists and the number could be hire. The state average was 8.2% for Sept. 2009. Quite a bit higher than last year.
November 4th, 2009 at 10:42 am (#)
It will turn around and get back to normal. The question is how soon.
November 4th, 2009 at 10:44 am (#)
I think what’s really surprising is that we were higher in Sept. than even the over-all state average.
November 4th, 2009 at 10:49 am (#)
I read a great article in the WSJ
“Between April 1, 2000, and June 30, 2007, an average of 3,247 more people moved out of California than into it every week, according to the Census Bureau. Over the same period, Texas had a net weekly population increase of 1,544 as a result of people moving in from other states. During these years, more generally, 16 of the 17 states with the lowest tax levels had positive “net internal migration,” in the Census Bureau’s language, while 14 of the 17 states with the highest taxes had negative net internal migration”
people are moving to Texas because of lower taxes and jobs.
November 4th, 2009 at 10:54 am (#)
for the Guv’s Office
“The governor credited Texas’ low taxes, reasonable regulatory structure, and economic development incentives such as the Texas Enterprise Fund and Texas Emerging Technology Fund with creating jobs for Texans by attracting businesses to relocate to the state. Approximately 70 percent of the jobs created in the U.S. from November 2007-2008 were in Texas, with 7,300 jobs created in November 2008 alone. Texas’ unemployment rate is one point lower than the national average, and the state’s annual growth rate was 2.1 percent last year, compared to -1.4 percent nationally.”
Low taxes and a friendly business environment will do it every time.
November 4th, 2009 at 10:55 am (#)
With a yearly increase in our loss of jobs from 5.1% (unemployment in Sept. 2008) to our current unempl. of 8.2% (8.5% in our area) is it really good to have more job seekers moving to our state?
This reminds me of the dust bowl fliers they used to circulate to keep labor costs depressed during the depression encouraging people to chase the latest job rumors. Not a good idea if we are losing so many jobs, perhaps that is one of the reasons our unemployment claims are rising, who knows. We certainly don’t need more job seekers coming to the area.
November 4th, 2009 at 10:55 am (#)
I know I know its hard for some to be positive.
November 4th, 2009 at 10:56 am (#)
At least not without a job already in their pocket.
November 4th, 2009 at 10:57 am (#)
Facts are neither positive or negative, but their resulting application may be if policy makers act in error.
November 4th, 2009 at 11:00 am (#)
How about more job producing companies moving to the area? That is what is needed.
November 4th, 2009 at 11:01 am (#)
Not feel good press releases! That’s a hell of a jump down in just one year. Going from 5% unemployed to over 8%.
November 4th, 2009 at 11:02 am (#)
The whole country is pulling it’s way out of a recession, not just FBC.
November 4th, 2009 at 11:04 am (#)
I’m just surprised some of you aren’t attacking the unemployed and blaming them for collecting their unemployment benefits.
November 4th, 2009 at 11:06 am (#)
What I didn’t like seeing in the numbers was the fact that our area was actually higher in September than the states over-all average.
November 4th, 2009 at 11:12 am (#)
You already said that in post #20.
November 4th, 2009 at 11:19 am (#)
I know I did, but I repeated because it is a disturbing number. Are you the official counter now? Or are you just an obstinate SOB. Are you going to comment on every thread?
November 4th, 2009 at 11:23 am (#)
Maybe you’re just going senile and can’t remember what you’ve already said, old man.
November 4th, 2009 at 11:27 am (#)
I thought you were supposed be a good little boy today and mind your Ps and Qs. I guess not….so bring it on.
November 4th, 2009 at 11:38 am (#)
“Fort Bend County Job Growth Ranks Third Among Nation’s Largest Counties”.
I saw this a good news but apparently some cann’t.
November 4th, 2009 at 11:43 am (#)
Well it certainly sounds better than saying our unemployment rate is higher than the state average in just one year, that’s for sure.
November 4th, 2009 at 11:44 am (#)
The state top county in home foreclocures is Ft. Bend Texas, thats leading the national ecomony crisis and ressession. Unlawful appraisal value actions by FBCAD and staff for higher taxes. Still waiting for the 2009 tax bill.
November 4th, 2009 at 11:46 am (#)
This may sound dumb, but why not just ignore the bad things?
November 4th, 2009 at 11:54 am (#)
one doesn’t have to ignore anything but why fixate on the negative or revel in it. Bad news seems to make some happy and good news seems to upset them.
November 4th, 2009 at 11:54 am (#)
Sunshine- Because as of late this has turned into the Oh-woe-is-me-board. They have it SOOOOOO bad here in FBC. *rolling eyes*
November 4th, 2009 at 12:19 pm (#)
I’m not sure sunshine anyone can even begin to deal with problems if they ignore the facts. First you have to find what those facts are and then work from that point. Much of what comes out in local papers are released from organizations public relations departments to put a positive twist on it. That is fine for unimportant and trivial matters but not for problems as serious as the ones we have been going back and forth on in here. Peoples jobs, taxes, families and homes are not trivial matters.
November 4th, 2009 at 12:31 pm (#)
And always remember, Sunshine, everything is always a big conspiracy and no city leaders ever tell the truth. Every single one of them has one hand in the taxpayer’s pocket and the other hand taking bribes from developers. *rolling eyes*
November 4th, 2009 at 12:42 pm (#)
Well the reality is many thousands in this community are impacted. Our friends are trying to dump their home on an already saturated resale market. They, like many others, are pulling their children our of the school system at a very bad time for them. These are the harsh realities and I don’t think pretending does any good.
November 4th, 2009 at 12:45 pm (#)
And for every family like that there are 92 that are doing just fine but I know it hard not to dwell on the negative for some people.
November 4th, 2009 at 12:52 pm (#)
I just meant that if we all could pretend it was getting better then maybe it would.
November 4th, 2009 at 12:57 pm (#)
Perhaps we could tell our friends and the thousands of others to just pretend they didn’t live here all of their lives or that their children were in a good schools they have to leave now or on a good team or that they may have trouble selling their home or so on and how do you ignore facts like our unemployment rate increasing in only one year from 5% to well over 8%? Aren’t those real people either. Do we just continue to pretend?
November 4th, 2009 at 1:08 pm (#)
Like I said before, the whole nation is coming out of a recession, not just Fort Bend County.
November 4th, 2009 at 1:34 pm (#)
Nobody is coming out of anything, if we keep pretending reality. Responsible adults look at and understand the facts. Then they act with care to implement policy changes that are needed to correct real problems, not fantasy.
This is certainly not a time for believing hard and clapping our hands for Tinkerbell to come back to life.
Thank you #42!
November 4th, 2009 at 1:36 pm (#)
Yeah, it’s a lifelong recession. We’ll never come out of it. Ever.
November 4th, 2009 at 1:37 pm (#)
Oh woe is meeeee.
November 4th, 2009 at 1:48 pm (#)
You have to forgive megabite, he doesn’t believe anything is happening until it hits him personally.
November 4th, 2009 at 1:49 pm (#)
Yep, the sky is definitely falling! RUN!
November 4th, 2009 at 1:50 pm (#)
I rest my case.
November 4th, 2009 at 1:51 pm (#)
Well then, … you heard it, it is no surprise to me that megamouth chooses to live in his fantasy world, instead of facing reality and dealing with it in a responsible and adult manner.
November 4th, 2009 at 1:52 pm (#)
♪♫”Always look on the dark side of life…”♪♫
November 4th, 2009 at 1:53 pm (#)
The reality is you obviously didn’t even bother to read the article, scud.
November 4th, 2009 at 1:54 pm (#)
I just did a search on Jeff Wiley. He comes up in some pretty interesting circles.
November 4th, 2009 at 1:55 pm (#)
Who do you keep calling scud and what is that in reference too, scud missiles?
November 4th, 2009 at 1:55 pm (#)
Why name call? Just debate using the facts.
November 4th, 2009 at 1:56 pm (#)
Mind your own business.
November 4th, 2009 at 1:58 pm (#)
Yes you are right people should mind their own business, until the sky falls on them.
November 4th, 2009 at 2:00 pm (#)
I noticed you never seem to ‘mind your own business’.
November 4th, 2009 at 2:01 pm (#)
So the sky IS falling? haha
Oh brother, not another one of you people.
November 4th, 2009 at 2:01 pm (#)
I googled “Jeff Wiley Sugar Land”
He is obviously has a dog in the fight.
November 4th, 2009 at 2:02 pm (#)
B-tabor- Thought I was a troll to you? Why are you responding to a troll? Don’t you always yammer on
about NOT FEEDING THE TROLL? Not too smart, are ya?
November 4th, 2009 at 2:03 pm (#)
Wait a minute megabite. I took up for you earlier and now you are going to turn on me?
November 4th, 2009 at 2:04 pm (#)
I guess you are right. Anyone that talks to you isn’t too smart.
8^)
November 4th, 2009 at 2:05 pm (#)
If you are another one of the doom n gloomers, we won’t get along, I assure you.
November 4th, 2009 at 2:05 pm (#)
Don’t take up for him cult! He just said he is a troll.
November 4th, 2009 at 2:05 pm (#)
Taber- FAIL
November 4th, 2009 at 2:07 pm (#)
Does the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics have a dog in the fight?
November 4th, 2009 at 2:08 pm (#)
hahaha what losers.
November 4th, 2009 at 2:11 pm (#)
All I’ve been saying is argue from a point of the facts. I didn’t take sides and there is never any reason to use name calling.
November 4th, 2009 at 2:16 pm (#)
I agree. Everyone stop calling each other names.
November 4th, 2009 at 2:17 pm (#)
haha Oh brother.
November 4th, 2009 at 2:18 pm (#)
Ok sunshine, but I can assure you mega that I’m not your brother or your keeper, as in zoo keeper!
November 4th, 2009 at 2:19 pm (#)
Was that supposed to be funny in some way? ??
November 4th, 2009 at 2:19 pm (#)
When one has nothing else, they can only name call. The only surprise to me is that people have not been called “liberals” for wanting to face real numbers on real issues for real change. Our economy can’t stand any more fantasy.
Maybe we should have “believed” harder in derivatives, Madoff, Stanford, and our unregulated Banks?
November 4th, 2009 at 2:24 pm (#)
No, I was serious, so stop laughing!
November 4th, 2009 at 2:24 pm (#)
This coming from someone who calls me ‘megamouth’.
November 4th, 2009 at 2:25 pm (#)
Is that supposed to be funny?
November 4th, 2009 at 2:26 pm (#)
here’s a tip libs turn off CNN.
Don’t Believe everything Barney Fwank, Pelosi and Reid tell you.
November 4th, 2009 at 2:26 pm (#)
No, taber, I was simply pointing out scud’s hypocrisy.
November 4th, 2009 at 2:27 pm (#)
haha Barney Fwank! Not THAT’S funny!
November 4th, 2009 at 2:28 pm (#)
libs here’s the game. All someone has to do is post something positive on these boards and for some reason you get your panties in a wad every time.
November 4th, 2009 at 2:31 pm (#)
They’re BAACCKKK….
November 4th, 2009 at 2:34 pm (#)
I hope your not saying that conservatives don’t face facts because I’m one who does.
November 4th, 2009 at 2:34 pm (#)
I bet mega/con could just kick himself for forgetting to blame Pelosi from the beginning of this discussion. What a willfully blind man.
November 4th, 2009 at 2:37 pm (#)
I just wish everyone could discuss this without getting so upset. Sure things are bad, but we don’t have to be mean about it.
November 4th, 2009 at 2:38 pm (#)
When’s the last time I blamed Pelosi for anything? I’ll wait…
November 4th, 2009 at 2:42 pm (#)
“cult_of_one says:
November 4th, 2009 at 9:33 am (#)
I have a friend who is transferring to another Fluor sub out of country. They’ve put their house on the already flooded area resale market. He claimed that they had many more lay-offs than the reported 500. He said it was closer to half the Sugar Land office. If that is true, then the 1500 jobs added last year weren’t nearly enough to compensate”
read the article “U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics show that Fort Bend County had the third highest increase in jobs during the first quarter of this year”
the 1500 jobs created was for the 3rd quarter only.
November 4th, 2009 at 2:48 pm (#)
Well even if you map that out it pales in comparison to jobs lost from last year to this. I believe the facts were posted at 5.1% to 8.5% for September of this year. That’s tens of thousands out of work. How does that compare?
November 4th, 2009 at 2:50 pm (#)
I guess if all those high paying unemployed run out to fill those burgeoning strip center service sector jobs then we could claim lower unemployment, but I don’t think many of those people would be able to hang onto their homes that way.
November 4th, 2009 at 2:55 pm (#)
What is the main point you are trying to make?
November 4th, 2009 at 3:09 pm (#)
Some irony in all this is that these two posters constantly blame the failing economy on one party, but when this report surfaced they try to claim it for another. Now that is duplicity.
November 4th, 2009 at 3:13 pm (#)
Where did I do that? Are you lying again?
November 4th, 2009 at 3:13 pm (#)
THINK before you type.
November 4th, 2009 at 3:27 pm (#)
tabor as usual you’ve got it wrong. I’ve seen nothing but negative posts from some about the thread. Some that post here cannot stand to see anything good said about Ft Bend Cty.
Ft Bend county stands head and shoulders above most places to live and no amount of negative bs by a bunch of malcontents will change it.
I say get a life trolls.
November 4th, 2009 at 3:31 pm (#)
a malcontent is a chronically dissatisfied person.
I have no understanding of what makes some people so unhappy, nor do I care to know them, and try to find out.
November 4th, 2009 at 3:34 pm (#)
I found these in threads on national economics
MEGABITE says:
February 19th, 2009 at 8:55 am (#)
Same thing for the Democrats. –In response to corruption claims
Here’s another claiming to be you
FedLibertarian says:
February 19th, 2009 at 4:06 pm (#)
“My codename is Megabyte. My mission, to deny in the face of overwhelming evidence that some Republicans may be corrupt. My destiny, to end up defending corrupt politicians like Tom Delay and to rail against Democrats at every opportunity.”
You never did apologize when the TWC reports were posted above mega. Why not? You keep doing this over and over and over again. You really should stop. Even above you cheer lead on the Barney Fwank comment. I vote across tickets, but see your partisanship for what it is and it solves nothing.
November 4th, 2009 at 3:38 pm (#)
Hey everybody, how do you keep an idiot busy for an hour? haha
Is that all you could dig up?? HA
Apologize? You must be out of your mind, son!
Oh and it should be clear by now I’m a Republican. The looney left is definitely not for me, but to each his own.
November 4th, 2009 at 3:39 pm (#)
What do you think the point was? It seems rather obvious.
November 4th, 2009 at 3:39 pm (#)
Do you even have a point?
November 4th, 2009 at 3:40 pm (#)
That’s funny ftbendconservative, you have some of the most negative posts on this site. Just look back at this thread.
November 4th, 2009 at 3:43 pm (#)
He meant negative towards FBC. Oh brother.
November 4th, 2009 at 3:43 pm (#)
It’s obvious to me you have trouble reading or interpreting posts. Now what do you think the point is of a post that includes facts and reports from people working at a company that has suffered massive lay-offs in a news piece meant to mislead us about the actual job market delivered via the Greater Fort Bend Economic Council?
November 4th, 2009 at 3:44 pm (#)
Oh yeah, the hearsay from your “friend”. M-kayyy
So you are claiming the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics is lying to us all?
November 4th, 2009 at 3:45 pm (#)
I’ve told you before I’m not your brother.
November 4th, 2009 at 3:46 pm (#)
You don’t think it is misleading to claim 500 people were laid off when it may actually be more? You don’t think leaving the rising unemployment rate out of a jobs article misleading?
I have some Florida land I want to sell you.
November 4th, 2009 at 3:47 pm (#)
That’s an old trick telling only half the story.
November 4th, 2009 at 3:47 pm (#)
Show us some proof it was more. Let’s start there, shall we?
November 4th, 2009 at 3:48 pm (#)
I can do that too. Are you calling the Texas Workforce Commission a liar?
November 4th, 2009 at 3:48 pm (#)
Could it be your “friend” doesn’t know what he’s talking about or is just passing along a rumor, hmmm?
November 4th, 2009 at 3:48 pm (#)
Answer my question first.
November 4th, 2009 at 3:49 pm (#)
You mean other than my friend and his wife who worked there and one of them was in upper management. No, I think that is a pretty good source.
Now are you calling the Texas Workforce Commission a liar?
November 4th, 2009 at 3:50 pm (#)
That’s what he is good at half truths.
November 4th, 2009 at 3:50 pm (#)
You do realize the TWC’s numbers weren’t for FBC but for the “Sugar Land area”, right?
November 4th, 2009 at 3:51 pm (#)
Show us some proof, not hearsay from a “friend”.
November 4th, 2009 at 3:52 pm (#)
Show us some stats that contradicts the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics pertaining to FBC.
November 4th, 2009 at 3:53 pm (#)
But of course you know more than the President of Greater Fort Bend Economic Development Council because you deal with this stuff everyday like he does, right? Oh wait, he’s lying, right?
November 4th, 2009 at 3:57 pm (#)
And now he will spam the site. I guess I should have told you to ignore the troll again, but that is what he is known for.
November 4th, 2009 at 3:59 pm (#)
Well since I’m the one who told you that, don’t you think I know they were only Sugar Land numbers. Doesn’t that concern you even more?
November 4th, 2009 at 3:59 pm (#)
Half truths again. I wonder why he is ignoring the facts?
November 4th, 2009 at 4:01 pm (#)
Well at least you all aren’t calling each other names.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:02 pm (#)
You need to figure out what you’re talking about, COO. Are you talking about SL or FBC? You can’t use those numbers
since they don’t compare to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics’s numbers. You can’t compare apples to oranges (well maybe YOU can).
November 4th, 2009 at 4:03 pm (#)
“Fort Bend County Job Growth Ranks Third Among Nation’s Largest Counties”
November 4th, 2009 at 4:03 pm (#)
Well that’s good news at least. The name calling that is.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:03 pm (#)
There’s a fact for you, taber.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:04 pm (#)
Why does that matter when our unemployment is higher than the state average? 8.5% versus 8.2%
Sounds like half the story to me.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:05 pm (#)
Let’s see 1500 more jobs versus tens of thousands lost? Hum, thats a no brainer.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:05 pm (#)
That’s because you only have half of a brain. haha
November 4th, 2009 at 4:05 pm (#)
What’s your point megabite?
November 4th, 2009 at 4:06 pm (#)
“# cult_of_one says:
November 4th, 2009 at 3:43 pm (#)
It’s obvious to me you have trouble reading or interpreting posts. Now what do you think the point is of a post that includes facts and reports from people working at a company that has suffered massive lay-offs in a news piece meant to mislead us about the actual job market delivered via the Greater Fort Bend Economic Council?”
who is misleading you, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, FBN, Jamie Mock?
November 4th, 2009 at 4:06 pm (#)
Oh now it’s ‘tens of thousands’? Speaking of half truths…quarter or tenth more like…
November 4th, 2009 at 4:06 pm (#)
I still think it would be better to ignore the negative news and just listen to the good stuff!
November 4th, 2009 at 4:07 pm (#)
It’s yet ANOTHER conspiracy, FBConservative! Haven’t you heard??
November 4th, 2009 at 4:08 pm (#)
hahaha time for calvin’s EDC rant
November 4th, 2009 at 4:09 pm (#)
There are over 600,000 people living here. Even using estimation it would end up much higher than the 1500 created. That is corporate spin that came out of an agency that take our money to sell the area. Maybe they have to say it, otherwise we may not want to keep giving them our taxes for their marketing BS.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:09 pm (#)
What do you have against facts anyway?
November 4th, 2009 at 4:10 pm (#)
I don’t think that is a good idea sunshine. No need to lie to ourselves. That would be foolish.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:11 pm (#)
You mean facts like: “Fort Bend County Job Growth Ranks Third Among Nation’s Largest Counties?”
November 4th, 2009 at 4:11 pm (#)
I guess Texas and Ft Bend’s low taxes and booming job markets upsets some. I guess there’s no pleasing some.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:11 pm (#)
No, that is between you and your nemesis, not me joker. Go pick on someone else.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:12 pm (#)
“Fort Bend County Job Growth Ranks Third Among Nation’s Largest Counties”
I guess I can see where that might upset a liberal.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:13 pm (#)
No I mean facts like this
‘A report prepared for the U.S. Conference of Mayors warns the Houston area could lose close to 44,000 thousand jobs this year. It also forecasts that the city could experience an area-wide unemployment rate of 6.6 percent, before the end of 2009.’
and this
‘The unemployment rate for the area was 8.4 percent, unchanged from July but up from 5.2 percent in August 2008.’
and these
‘According to the Texas Workforce Commission (it reports the Sugar Land area average) as 5.1 in Sept. 2008 and as 8.5% as of the last reporting cycle of Sept. 2009.’
November 4th, 2009 at 4:13 pm (#)
Why is it foolish to pretend things are getting better?
November 4th, 2009 at 4:14 pm (#)
“Houston area”??
“Sugar Land area”??
Apples to oranges again.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:14 pm (#)
There he goes name calling again. That is usually the last tactic of ignorance.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:14 pm (#)
More doom n gloom?
November 4th, 2009 at 4:14 pm (#)
Pretending is not a good idea. It tends to hide real issues, rather than address them directly.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:15 pm (#)
What do you have against facts?
November 4th, 2009 at 4:15 pm (#)
tabor why are you so unhappy?
November 4th, 2009 at 4:16 pm (#)
Yes, you should use hearsay and unrelated statistics to try and prove a point.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:16 pm (#)
Facts are not gloom and doom and they are not ‘feel good’ releases either. How can anyone deal with these problems if you are going to ignore them?
November 4th, 2009 at 4:16 pm (#)
Taber- Facts like “Fort Bend County Job Growth Ranks Third Among Nation’s Largest Counties”?
November 4th, 2009 at 4:16 pm (#)
Just how are jobs reports not related to a jobs article?
November 4th, 2009 at 4:17 pm (#)
You need to refute these facts first and so far you haven’t.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:17 pm (#)
HA Are you claiming whining on the internet is somehow dealing with a alleged problem?
November 4th, 2009 at 4:17 pm (#)
tabor are you upset with The BLS, or FBN or Jamie Mock for this story?
November 4th, 2009 at 4:17 pm (#)
See post 148
November 4th, 2009 at 4:17 pm (#)
I think you are wasting your time with this argument. They aren’t the least bit concerned about dealing with real problems, only masking them.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:18 pm (#)
What about consumer confidence?
November 4th, 2009 at 4:18 pm (#)
Yes, you are definitely wasting your time, c-o-o. Come back when you have some proof.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:19 pm (#)
Nope–Apples to apples. The TWC report is on our area or do you need to go review it again. You can pretend though with sunshine.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:20 pm (#)
The data looked very clear to me regarding the unemployment numbers and I have yet to see an article that refutes they have gone up over 3% in this area. As for my friends, I trust them implicity, but don’t trust you at all.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:20 pm (#)
This article isn’t about this area, it’s about FBC as a whole. Do I need to type slower?
November 4th, 2009 at 4:20 pm (#)
That wasn’t nice b_tabor.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:20 pm (#)
as previously stated the most seemly innocuous story here really upsets some, especially if its something good about Ft Bend Cty.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:21 pm (#)
Good for you, c-o-o. I on the other hand don’t believe hearsay from and anopnymous internet poster for obvious
reasons.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:21 pm (#)
No, just stop typing period. You won’t confront the reality that many are facing. Just more lies and cover.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:22 pm (#)
Yeah, FBC is SUCH a terrible place to live! We must poo poo all good news about it! *rolling eyes*
November 4th, 2009 at 4:23 pm (#)
I believe the point being made ftbendconservative has to do with telling the whole story and not presenting half truths. I don’t think Wiley should hold back the unemployment numbers or pretend the Fluor lay-offs are no big deal.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:23 pm (#)
Liberals need their daily shot of doom and gloom and if FBN does stop writing good news about FT Bend Cty, maybe they’ll all leave. hint hint
November 4th, 2009 at 4:24 pm (#)
the only half truths held back by anyone are the ones in your mind. You need to learn to accept good news about Ft Bend Cty and lose the vendetta.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:25 pm (#)
I apologize sunshine, but ignoring the facts is not a good way to go. You can’t solve problems if you ignore them.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:25 pm (#)
Sorry mega if you think including facts left out of a jobs report is poo poo, but you really need to learn to face the facts and discuss in a cogent manner rather than like a child.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:26 pm (#)
They aren’t facts. You need to go look up hearsay.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:26 pm (#)
you guys are welcome to go gloom and doom at calvin’s site or susan’s, yanno the ones that no one reads.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:27 pm (#)
Come back when you have some real proof, otherwise quit calling Wiley a liar (speaking of acting like a kid).
November 4th, 2009 at 4:27 pm (#)
ftbendconservative you are the one trying to mess with peoples heads in here, not I. I have no vendetta against anyone except falsehood reported to the public in half truths and marketing spin. This is a jobs report that only tells one very small piece of a much larger story.
You can hide if you like, but the readers always have the right to know the facts.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:29 pm (#)
Sounds like your words megabite, I said he only reported a small part of the economic picture. Go blather on someone else who buys your BS.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:29 pm (#)
I’m happy to live in Ft Bend Cty and no gloom and doomer will change that.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:29 pm (#)
No problem b_tabor. I just don’t think this needs to get ugly as it so often does.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:30 pm (#)
No harm done sunshine. We just disagree.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:31 pm (#)
took tabor long enough to get the attack in on the edc.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:32 pm (#)
I can hide what tabor? hahaha you trolls amuse me
November 4th, 2009 at 4:32 pm (#)
I like living here too, but I won’t do it with my head in the sand. I’m offended that Jeff Wiley would attempt to marginalize those 500 lay-offs. That is a very large portion of that once thriving company and if I’m not mistaken they are also a member of his organization. What good could it do to hammer those people.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:33 pm (#)
Your being negative again ftbendconservative.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:33 pm (#)
You can’t have it both ways, taber. Either he’s telling the truth, or not. Be a man and pick one.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:34 pm (#)
Get me right though, I’m not taking sides. I just think more positive news is needed. We don’t have to pretend or ignore anything, but brighter news would help consumer confidence.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:35 pm (#)
c-o-o- He in no way hammered them. Another figment of your imagination. It wasn’t his fault they got laid off.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:35 pm (#)
“I’m offended that Jeff Wiley would attempt to marginalize those 500 lay-offs.” time for the rant
tabor you’re always negative.
if you’re so unhappy here move.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:35 pm (#)
Or maybe you think it is?
November 4th, 2009 at 4:35 pm (#)
What is it you don’t understand about my posts? I stand by my statements. Why are you so adverse to facts?
November 4th, 2009 at 4:36 pm (#)
c-o-o- BTW, Fluor is still thriving. That was only one project. Surely you know this since your ‘friends’ worked
there, right?
November 4th, 2009 at 4:37 pm (#)
I figured you wouldn’t man up, taber. Not your style.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:37 pm (#)
said Wiley. “While we have had the layoffs announced, that’s a blip on otherwise .
I see this quote from above is not an attempt to belittle the massive lay-offs? Now that is a good one!
November 4th, 2009 at 4:38 pm (#)
Calling 500 lay-offs a blip on the screen. You got to love that one.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:38 pm (#)
Now, he’s pointing out the situation isn’t dire like you people want everyone to believe.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:38 pm (#)
Mega the Fluor lay offs were due to a energy project overseas being cancelled, somehow the trolls blame that on Ft Bend Cty.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:39 pm (#)
You should phone him and give him a piece of your mind! Yeah, like that’ll ever happen. It’s much easier to whine on messageboards.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:40 pm (#)
That is a quote from the article. I guess it’s another fact they want to deny.
These are the facts that were left out of the article or down played
‘A report prepared for the U.S. Conference of Mayors warns the Houston area could lose close to 44,000 thousand jobs this year. It also forecasts that the city could experience an area-wide unemployment rate of 6.6 percent, before the end of 2009.’
and this
‘The unemployment rate for the area was 8.4 percent, unchanged from July but up from 5.2 percent in August 2008.’
and these
‘According to the Texas Workforce Commission (it reports the Sugar Land area average) as 5.1 in Sept. 2008 and as 8.5% as of the last reporting cycle of Sept. 2009.’
November 4th, 2009 at 4:41 pm (#)
You’ve already posted that a few times, do you think repeatedly posting non matching stats is helping? WOW
November 4th, 2009 at 4:41 pm (#)
Don’t kid yourself, these boys are reading every post and so are a great many others including those 500 or more depending on whether or not you accept these reported numbers or not.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:41 pm (#)
Someone PLEASE give taber a map of Texas counties! STAT!
November 4th, 2009 at 4:42 pm (#)
You can keep trying to reframe it, but those are the facts. Denying them accomplishes nothing.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:42 pm (#)
You should march right down to his office and demand he stop lying and that he rehire those people, c-o-o!! *rolling eyes*
November 4th, 2009 at 4:43 pm (#)
Obviously the word ‘fact’ is subjective.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:45 pm (#)
Sorry mega, the TWC report has us at 8.5% unemployment. And according to them the rural areas are often hit harder. So are you talking about the farm areas or the most densely populated region of the county? Another game? They gave the averages for our area for Sept. Now you are just being deliberately deceitful.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:47 pm (#)
No, facts are not, just how they are used or misused. And Wiley only gave half of a jobs report. You can keep gaming if you like.
Notice sunshine I’m not using any names.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:47 pm (#)
Looks like you are repeating yourself now megabite.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:48 pm (#)
I’ve noticed.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:48 pm (#)
Like you have been doing all day long, c-o-o? Hypocrite alert! BEEP BEEP
November 4th, 2009 at 4:48 pm (#)
Maybe I should just post DON’T FEED THE TROLL again?
November 4th, 2009 at 4:49 pm (#)
Yeah, taber, farmers probably got laid off from their own farms. uh-huh. The cows had to let them go. Oh brother.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:50 pm (#)
Well some refuse to listen and argue in dishonest manner. Facts and facts. I accept yours and the unemployment report and fully understand what they are saying. It is you attempting to argue falsely.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:50 pm (#)
yeah, I agree, you should be pretty full by now with all the Attention you’ve been getting today.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:50 pm (#)
But that would be name calling I guess.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:51 pm (#)
Whatever you say, c-o-o. You’ve obviously convinced yourself you’re right.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:51 pm (#)
Even though you have no idea what you are yammering on about…
November 4th, 2009 at 4:52 pm (#)
I may be wasting my time with you.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:53 pm (#)
I could have told you that before now.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:53 pm (#)
Be sure to let us know how that phone call or meeting with Wiley goes.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:56 pm (#)
I shouldn’t have said may be.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:58 pm (#)
# MEGABITE says:
November 4th, 2009 at 4:49 pm (#)
Yeah, taber, farmers probably got laid off from their own farms. uh-huh. The cows had to let them go. Oh brother.
Then what is your point about the increase by over 3% to 8.5% unemployment then. Are you now admitting they report on our area is correct? Then you should be also chastising Wiley for not including that in this jobs report.
November 4th, 2009 at 5:00 pm (#)
Oh man you’re lost.
November 4th, 2009 at 5:00 pm (#)
Good one cult.
November 4th, 2009 at 5:00 pm (#)
No, I’m very clear on what you are trying to do.
November 4th, 2009 at 5:01 pm (#)
Ok, I will say it now without the maybe.
November 4th, 2009 at 5:01 pm (#)
Tell you what, you two keyboard commandos email Wiley with your claims and CnP his reply. Man up instead of the usual internet whining.
November 4th, 2009 at 5:04 pm (#)
*crickets*
November 4th, 2009 at 5:22 pm (#)
Mega these posters are liberal dems who prefer the term progressives or reformers. The reason they detest any good news it defeats their purpose. They need bad news especially economic so they can save the voters by running “reform” candidates. IE the liberal env lawyer Morrison.
Most will deny being liberals and will even go so far as to lie and say they’re consrvatives.
They have an agenda and any good news must be vilified so they can save.
Ft Bend Cty is high on their list.
November 4th, 2009 at 9:15 pm (#)
You all don’t need to worry too much, “conman” charlie is a vendor feeding insider fake conservative.
As a matter of fact, he should learn how to spell “consrvatives” before claiming to be one. He’s an edc boy all the way and is only concerned about stealing our tax dollars for his buddies projects. Party for him is completely irrelevant.
His idea of being positive is telling people to go “kneecap old ladies”. That’s how he gets his kicks.
Just ignore such fakes. Most of us do.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:20 am (#)
What does santhony/calvin do when exposed he attacks the messenger.
calvin you accuse me of being a vendor, so what do I sell, and to whom? Quit making false accusations and present facts, if you can
So calvin how does a PHD Edu spell decent? Most spell ir dissent.
Bring on the attacks liberal/responsible developement/ FBISD watchdog/ MissouriCity Chatter/louisianaboy/troll you’ve been outted again. troll
November 5th, 2009 at 5:24 am (#)
rantings from the progressive who claims to be a conservative
http://missouricitychatter.blogspot.com/2006_01_01_archive.html
November 5th, 2009 at 8:30 am (#)
Mega these posters are liberal dems who prefer the term progressives or reformers. The reason they detest any good news it defeats their purpose. They need bad news especially economic so they can save the voters by running “reform” candidates. IE the liberal env lawyer Morrison.
Most will deny being liberals and will even go so far as to lie and say they’re a conservative.
They have an agenda and any good news must be vilified so they can save.
November 5th, 2009 at 9:26 am (#)
I would remind everyone not to feed this troll today but it appears to be too late.
November 5th, 2009 at 9:59 am (#)
tabor who are you gonna run down today besides me?
November 5th, 2009 at 10:05 am (#)
amazing how “Fort Bend County Job Growth Ranks Third Among Nation’s Largest Counties” got the liberals panties in a wad.
November 5th, 2009 at 3:36 pm (#)
Wow 240 posts.
November 7th, 2009 at 7:32 am (#)
interesting rant from calvin in the link on #236