Quail Valley Fund Donates Science Books To Lantern Lane Elementary School
November 5th, 2009 | by FortBendNow Staff | Published in News | 316 Comments
Lantern Lane Elementary School is the recipient of new AIMS Education Foundation science books thanks to a donation made by the Quail Valley Fund. Toni Mamula, a Quail Valley Fund trustee, presented the books to the school Tuesday on behalf of the organization. The books are grade appropriate – covering earth, life, nature and physical science – and will be distributed to all students in grades K-5.
Pictured are teachers Kylara Parker, Larry Wilson, Barbara Berezoski, and Linda Littleton; Elia Eccleston, assistant principal; Toni Mamula, Quail Valley Fund trustee; Sheila Emery, principal; and teachers Gertrude Simmons, Rachel Schweigert and Sarah Dutchin.
Quail Valley Fund also plans to donate instructional material to other Quail Valley area schools, including Quail Valley Elementary, Quail Valley Middle School and Elkins High School in the near future.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:31 am (#)
Now finally a project I can get behind. Nothing like reading.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:34 am (#)
This is a worthwhile cause. HOWEVER, this is NOT what the Fund should be doing. The Fund is to cover services for its members, such as maintence and garbage pickup. We pay FBISD taxes for school supplies. It is also not to be used to pay for the Golf Course. It seems to me that perhaps the Fund is collecting too much money. If there is excess monies, lower the Fund tax.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:39 am (#)
I was just going to ask if they put this up for a vote of the membership before doing it. They also made a contribution last year to the city without asking the membership if my memory serves me. I’m sure if they had asked something like this would be supported, but they should put these up for votes.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:40 am (#)
Why are you all being so negative. This seems like a good cause. What is the QV Fund anyway? A charity?
November 5th, 2009 at 10:49 am (#)
susnshine same pattern as yesterday the progessives have to tear down any good deed. Its what liberals do
November 5th, 2009 at 10:59 am (#)
Because sunshine this is charlies HOA that is giving his money away with out asking the membership to vote on it. This is a non-profit, not a charity. I agree they should call for a vote before giving away more of their HOA annual dues no matter how worthy the cause.
I’m sure the homeowners would support it, but they should at least seek their vote of support. Charlie doesn’t get into trivial matters like doing what’s right and seeking peoples votes….hahaha
November 5th, 2009 at 11:00 am (#)
He also doesn’t get into supporting democratic elections either….he likes when the fix is in or when HOA newsletters solicit campaign contributions for their candidates which is also a violation of HOA non-profit rules.
LOL
November 5th, 2009 at 11:15 am (#)
Oh, I didn’t know. They should vote. But it is a good cause.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:24 am (#)
calvin is a liberal that was run out of Missouri City. He had a vendetta against MC and will spread any rumor or lie about the city. He has been escorted out of city council meetings by the police. He’s commonly referred to by council memebers as “the nut”.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:26 am (#)
calvin have you turned anyone into the TEC, IRS or FBI today?
November 5th, 2009 at 11:37 am (#)
Yes Sunshine they should vote, but you will see some trying to stop that.
PS What lies libeler-”conman”? You repeat this falsehood so often, but never provide any real support except fabricated quotes you invented. You attack all conservatives and call them liberals while defending the crony-boyz who feed their no-bid vendors who contribute to their campaigns to keep them in power and keep the “pay to play” system going and feeding off our taxes while they spiral up unabated. I’ve provided official records to support my statements. All you provide is more lies and libel.
You are a liar and a fool charlie and worse yet an ignorant one. How much do they pay you AH to spin your lies?
November 5th, 2009 at 11:44 am (#)
calvin why do you falsely turn people into the FBI, TEC, IRS if not to stop them, are you saying you’re trying to help them?…..hahaha
The QV Fund makes a donation to a local school hopefully to help the kids.
Why would that upset someone that doesn’t belong to the QV fund?
November 5th, 2009 at 11:55 am (#)
“…why do you falsely turn people into the FBI, TEC, IRS if not to stop them, are you saying you’re trying to help them? ftbendconman
-More of your libel charlie? No “false” reports have been made, only accurate reports about you have been filed and accepted with related investigations. You really need to stop breaking the law then. The veil of protection hiding behind your logins is a very thin mask charlie. Just a rule of thumb, you shouldn’t make any statement in here that isn’t based on truth or can’t be supported factually. Your ever changing handle doesn’t protect you from libel or death threats ignorant one.
PS Apparently it does upset some that didn’t get to vote in the membership in the posts above. Why do you defend use of private funds by a private organization without a vote of the membership? You couldn’t possibly be a Fascisti?
PPS I still think your post telling people to “kneecap old ladies” is the top keeper so far crony-boy.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:57 am (#)
“Your ever changing handle doesn’t protect you from libel or death threats ignorant one.”….ohhh death threats so now you’re threatening me.
here’s a keeper loserboy….you’re a lunatic. hahaha need more?
November 5th, 2009 at 11:58 am (#)
calvin as the mouth piece for the dem party you really shouldn’t threaten voters.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:02 pm (#)
Never been a member of that party AH. Still libeling? What voters (plural) am I supposed to be threatening? I’m not even threatening you. I just report you each time you violate the law. My suggestion is that you stop.
You should also not lie about working for the government too. Another violation.
You really are pretty dumb.
And notice I’m not laughing because you aren’t funny.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:03 pm (#)
Just as I thought, again no support just empty rhetorical claims.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:05 pm (#)
“only accurate reports about you have been filed and accepted with related investigations” can I get an update on my related investigation?
oh btw my letter hasn’t arrived at my Richmond mail box?
Can you check on those for me?
November 5th, 2009 at 12:08 pm (#)
Don’t you think you should at least take some classes on debating? You really are way to easy to trip up and catch in your lies. I’m sincere, you really are pretty bad at this charlie (our fake conservative no-bid vendor feeder)….
November 5th, 2009 at 12:13 pm (#)
“Don’t you think you should at least take some classes on debating?”..you think this is debating? I’m making fun of you silly liberal…..hahaha
November 5th, 2009 at 12:14 pm (#)
Why are you pretending you didn’t make death threats to two other posters in here? I have the originals as do the police. Is that good behavior for a fake conservative who lies regularly in these threads?
fortbendconservative says on Monday, Joe do you even know how to be positive? I’m sorry if life is so bad for you…maybe you’ll ened it all soon?
These are your words are you now denying them loser? I don’t know anyone that goes out on a limb like this and then turns around and accuses those he attacks as the ones making the statement. Is this some new juvenile game you’ve invented?
Your still not even amusing, but you are at least a habitual liar.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:16 pm (#)
hahaha what a lunatic
I actually feel sorry for you. Not empathy, sorry. You’re as crazy as a loon.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:17 pm (#)
That’s one consistency about you besides having no life charlie. Your at an age that must be pretty depressing for you. All you have is a nemesis.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:18 pm (#)
calvin in you’re stupid PC world my breathing is construed as a death threat. Does it make you right? No it simply means your a lunatic.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:20 pm (#)
here’s a thought for you to ponder calvin.
As some of us get older we mature and get wiser. You won’t have to worry about that.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:21 pm (#)
Still going to claim that its ok for non-profits not to seek input from their membership before expending funds from their annual dues?
PS Actually the officer I talked to thought it was. Why do you have problems with facts? I guess that’s the clique you run with. It’s some how ok to do this in your mind charlie.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:22 pm (#)
still not paying dues calvin?
November 5th, 2009 at 12:22 pm (#)
At least you stopped denying it. Now if only you hadn’t falsely claimed to be a government official…….now that one is funny and a keeper.
That’s illegal too dummy. lol
November 5th, 2009 at 12:24 pm (#)
actually the officer was thinking “omg this guy is a lunatic”
Any idea why some that know you call you “crazy chris”…..
November 5th, 2009 at 12:25 pm (#)
Do they really pay you to sit in here and spin this tripe? Which marketing firm funnels you the pay for this?
November 5th, 2009 at 12:26 pm (#)
“Now if only you hadn’t falsely claimed to be a government official”…I did…when?…..hahaha you stupid troll
November 5th, 2009 at 12:27 pm (#)
“Do they really pay you to sit in here and spin this tripe?”
who said I get paid?….oh right only calvin the nut
November 5th, 2009 at 12:28 pm (#)
How’s that FBI report you filed progressing? *snicker* Just curious…
November 5th, 2009 at 12:28 pm (#)
calvin the dem party must love you the perfect front guy
the mouthpiece
November 5th, 2009 at 12:29 pm (#)
Thats funny, now you are going to claim you didn’t say in the MC golf course thread that you worked for the government and not to mess with you (yep that was a keeper too). More lies upon more lies liar?
FtBendConservative says:
November 2nd, 2009
…Here’s a tip calvin I work for the gvmt, don’t push your luck. False accusations is not a laughing matter, troll.
PS Actually you calling anyone anything is just a tad hypocritical given your history in here and NO charlie you didn’t talk to the officer so your fantasies don’t count for anything. Now tell us who and how they pay you?
November 5th, 2009 at 12:29 pm (#)
he won’t tell me Mega
November 5th, 2009 at 12:30 pm (#)
Mega what did your letter say? you know the one at your Richmond address?…snicker
November 5th, 2009 at 12:33 pm (#)
Still trying to make me a liberal or a democrat, when I’m neither. I guess like the Rovian way it is easier just to lie about someone than argue from a point of truth. You never did explain why your mayor buddy (fake conservative) used his developer contributions to pay for 3 democratic endorsements from politicians that do not live in his city? Certainly you have the skinny on all that and the bottom land purchase with taxpayers money for above market value??? hahaha
Nope, your still not a conservative vendor feeder…..just a liar!
November 5th, 2009 at 12:34 pm (#)
When are you going to learn not to feed this troll?
November 5th, 2009 at 12:36 pm (#)
You really need to explain why the MC mayor wanted those 3 out of town democrats endorsements so bad he was willing to nearly empty out his campaign war chest from all those development companies. Why would a supposedly republican mayor pay so much for those endorsements???
hahahah - yes the truth hurts doesn’t it…..too bad he couldn’t get them without paying for them….
November 5th, 2009 at 12:37 pm (#)
Your vendetta is showing again…tsk tsk tsk
November 5th, 2009 at 12:39 pm (#)
Facts aren’t “vendetta” charlie and you can stop pretending we don’t know the secret of mega/ftbendconman charlie….LOL
November 5th, 2009 at 12:40 pm (#)
You going on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on…and on about the mayor of a town you don’t even live in anymore IS a vendetta. The first step is admitting you have a problem.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:40 pm (#)
We will wait for you to explain why he couldn’t have gotten those democratic out of town endorsements without that big fat developer contribution……why aren’t you defending him? You really need to learn what fiscal and constitutional conservatism is charlie.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:41 pm (#)
Because you haven’t got a clue.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:42 pm (#)
Why are you butting in mega? Is this your fight or something? They sound like good questions to me.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:43 pm (#)
I like the nick given to him by patriot, “megamouth”….it really suits charlie.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:43 pm (#)
Go take a long walk off a short pier, saber rattler
November 5th, 2009 at 12:44 pm (#)
Yes, as “the nut” suits you to a tee, ‘Jane L’. haha
November 5th, 2009 at 12:44 pm (#)
Now “conman” answer the questions.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:44 pm (#)
Why are you butting in mega?
November 5th, 2009 at 12:45 pm (#)
Here it is again loser-
..You really need to explain why the MC mayor wanted those 3 out of town democrats endorsements so bad he was willing to nearly empty out his campaign war chest from all those development companies. Why would a supposedly republican mayor pay so much for those endorsements???
hahahah - yes the truth hurts doesn’t it…..too bad he couldn’t get them without paying for them….
November 5th, 2009 at 12:45 pm (#)
Go take that walk, taber.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:46 pm (#)
Yes, I know it hurts charlie, but that is the unvarnished truth.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:46 pm (#)
“You really need to explain why the MC mayor wanted those 3 out of town democrats endorsements”…ahhh yes the 3 dems you demanded be thrown out of the dem party, did you mean those dems?
“Still trying to make me a liberal or a democrat, when I’m neither”…but you demanded they be thrown out of the dem party.
oh wait you’re telling the QVFund what they can do and can’t and you don’t pay dues
and you constantly tell MC how the city should be run and you don’t live in MC.
I’m starting to see a pattern, yes it does look like a vendetta from a vindictive liberal.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:46 pm (#)
Back to your threats and name calling mega?
November 5th, 2009 at 12:47 pm (#)
What color is the sky in your world, Jane?
November 5th, 2009 at 12:47 pm (#)
Where did I threaten anyone, liar?
November 5th, 2009 at 12:47 pm (#)
All this personal attack has nothing to do with the article, and the purpose of the tax funded QV Fund. I said it was a ‘worthwhile cause’. I am just pointing out that a good cause is not sufficient reason to spend the members money.
Here’s something to ponder. If an organization with money, like the Fund, can buy books for a public school, how would you feel if Planned Parenthood, or Christian Coalation, bought books for those same schools?
Remember. FBISD, Missouri City, and the Fund all collect our taxes. Just don’t use them for other purposes.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:47 pm (#)
No answer, the silence is deafening….hahaha
November 5th, 2009 at 12:48 pm (#)
VOR- Any excuse for ’santhony’ to go off on one of his daily attacks. He’s got a vendetta for life.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:48 pm (#)
I’m not a dem and I don’t have a vendetta….but….hahaha
November 5th, 2009 at 12:48 pm (#)
That’s actually a good point voice, but the trolls have taken the thread elsewhere.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:49 pm (#)
Yes you have.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:49 pm (#)
“You really need to explain why the MC mayor wanted those 3 out of town democrats endorsements”…ahhh yes the 3 dems you demanded be thrown out of the dem party, did you mean those dems?
“Still trying to make me a liberal or a democrat, when I’m neither”…but you demanded they be thrown out of the dem party.
oh wait you’re telling the QVFund what they can do and can’t and you don’t pay dues
and you constantly tell MC how the city should be run and you don’t live in MC.
I’m starting to see a pattern, yes it does look like a vendetta from a vindictive liberal…..
November 5th, 2009 at 12:50 pm (#)
I’ve already said voice that I thought the membership should have a vote on this. Obviously there is one who doesn’t agree and may be very close to this issue. That is why he is diverting the thread.
Your points are well taken.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:51 pm (#)
tabor is protecting his progessive buddy from a major butt whuppin
November 5th, 2009 at 12:51 pm (#)
I don’t see any harm in letting the members of the HOA vote on expenditures like these.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:52 pm (#)
actually I’m not close to anything but I do pay dies and you don’t calvin, but that doesn’t stop you from running the show.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:53 pm (#)
You couldn’t argue your way out of kindergarten dummy and stop calling yourself anything but a govt vendor feeding troll. You’ve never been a conservative.
Now get back on topic and tell us why you don’t support the membership having a vote loser???
November 5th, 2009 at 12:53 pm (#)
tabor you in QVFund, pay dues?….no then myob…just like calvin
November 5th, 2009 at 12:54 pm (#)
You just said above you lived in Richmond. Then is it any of your business AH?
PS This is a public article and anyone can comment moron.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:54 pm (#)
Yep, just another lie by our trolling liar….hahaha
November 5th, 2009 at 12:54 pm (#)
So once again he’s whining about something he’s not even a part of. How typical.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:54 pm (#)
calvin myob…know what it means. Where did I say this “tell us why you don’t support the membership having a vote loser???”….just another strawman argument by a progressive
November 5th, 2009 at 12:55 pm (#)
Your a fine one to be talking mega.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:55 pm (#)
He’s charlie, don’t kid yourself.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:55 pm (#)
He just likes to read his own writing (ranting actually) on the internet.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:56 pm (#)
Have you started that walk yet, taber? I think you should jog. haha
November 5th, 2009 at 12:56 pm (#)
No I asked if you sent your goofy letter to richmond where you said Mega lived…..even though he has repeatedly told you he doesn’t…..
keep your lies straight liberal
November 5th, 2009 at 12:56 pm (#)
It’s why you diverted the thread and attacked any posters who supported a membership vote. JUst go back up to your original attack post dummy.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:57 pm (#)
I’m not going anywhere. This is an open forum.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:57 pm (#)
calvin here’s where you stamp you feet and outshout the rest of us…..troll
November 5th, 2009 at 12:58 pm (#)
Answer the questions charlie, you can pretend later-
…You really need to explain why the MC mayor wanted those 3 out of town democrats endorsements so bad he was willing to nearly empty out his campaign war chest from all those development companies. Why would a supposedly republican mayor pay so much for those endorsements???
hahahah - yes the truth hurts doesn’t it…..too bad he couldn’t get them without paying for them….
November 5th, 2009 at 12:58 pm (#)
so calvin and tabor don’t pay dues but they demand a vote?….hahaha…yep progressives
November 5th, 2009 at 1:00 pm (#)
you have to ask Owen yourself you block walked for him right?….no wait you blockwalked for the dem, didn’t live in MC but don’t have a vendetta?……yeah right…..hahaha
November 5th, 2009 at 1:00 pm (#)
All anyone has to do is repost your keepers to expose you charlie our little corporate fascist-welfare feeder pretend government employee….now answer the questions from voice and me above……troll
November 5th, 2009 at 1:01 pm (#)
I did troll, myob
having trouble getting it?
November 5th, 2009 at 1:01 pm (#)
but I demand you answer me…..I did myob…..hahaha
November 5th, 2009 at 1:02 pm (#)
here’s a keeper troll…myob
November 5th, 2009 at 1:02 pm (#)
Why did Owen need those three out of town democratic endorsements and why did he pay so much for them “conman”. Doesn’t he claim to be a republican? Why would he pay so much for those endorsements? Why not just ask the party or his developers from Houston for more.
Answer voices question too charlieB.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:03 pm (#)
want to get thrown out of a HOA meeting?….hahaha
November 5th, 2009 at 1:03 pm (#)
I will answer. If my HOA was making charity contributions I would want them to ask us first. For this one I would probably say yes, but not for every gift.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:04 pm (#)
Why charlieB are you making another threat?
Now answer the questions…..dummy
November 5th, 2009 at 1:06 pm (#)
And what about that bottom land he voted to purchase for the city from one of his largest contributors? Does he know the meaning of “recusal” and then a month later voted to raise the city tax rate once again…..nothing conservative about that…hahaha
November 5th, 2009 at 1:07 pm (#)
I agree, they should have put it up for a vote. And yes I would have supported it too as long as they asked us. Besides didn’t they raise the dues a few years ago to pay for the golf course? Did they ever lower it again when they didn’t purchase it? Voice do you know anything about that?
November 5th, 2009 at 1:08 pm (#)
as a dues payer of QVFund I can appreciate the concern of all of you non dues payers do gooders. You entitled to your own opinion. Now here’s mine myob…..hahaha
November 5th, 2009 at 1:10 pm (#)
ahhh the bottom land rant…what a lunatic
calvin why don’t you come to the next QVFund meeting and berate the officiers for giving the books to Lantern Lane……hahaha
Sir are you a member?…no….bye….hahaha
November 5th, 2009 at 1:11 pm (#)
That’s interesting you claimed to be living in Richmond and now your saying your in MC. I don’t think charlieB you have any credibility left, but chime on “conman”……that’s the best nick for you fake conservative…..now aren’t you made that you never got your dues back when they raised them to purchase the course, but never used them for that???
LOL
November 5th, 2009 at 1:12 pm (#)
calvin said “. And yes I would have supported it too as long as they asked us.”….why would QVFund ask you anything you lunatic
November 5th, 2009 at 1:13 pm (#)
calvin you said I live in Richmond….me & Mega are still waiting on “the letter” you lunatic…..hahaha
November 5th, 2009 at 1:13 pm (#)
You need to tell that to all the members you didn’t allow the vote to before you give those gifts charlieB. I’m quite sure many in your HOA haven’t a clue what you boyz are doing. LOL
November 5th, 2009 at 1:14 pm (#)
I think you need to ask patriot about your private joke regarding the letter moron or have you forgotten again in your old age? You can’t water the drive-way forever dummy.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:14 pm (#)
calcin don’t worry your pretty little haid about what the big boys do….oh and don’t call us…we’ll call you…..hahaha
November 5th, 2009 at 1:15 pm (#)
po calvin they won’t let him live in MC….but I wanna be in charge…..hahaha
November 5th, 2009 at 1:16 pm (#)
Your greatness is a figment on a very small mind. Now answer the questions about the mayors paid endorsements from those 3 out of town democrats….LOL
November 5th, 2009 at 1:17 pm (#)
calvin you post under so many pseudos and lie so much I’m afraid I can’t keep up….all I can do is laugh at you….
November 5th, 2009 at 1:18 pm (#)
the ones you demanded be thrown out of the dem party that you’re not a member of?….those calvin?
November 5th, 2009 at 1:18 pm (#)
More lies….just answer the questions idiot.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:20 pm (#)
You never did say what you all did with those dues that were never returned or used on the golf course….??? hahaha
November 5th, 2009 at 1:21 pm (#)
As mouthpiece of the dem party I demand the hides of those dems….I demand they be thrown out of the dem party!…but you aren’t a dem
thats ok I don’t live in MC but I run it too
and I don’t pay dues to QVFund and I run it too….hahaha
oh yeah I be in charge….hahaha
November 5th, 2009 at 1:22 pm (#)
calvin thats QVFund business are you a member?
November 5th, 2009 at 1:23 pm (#)
I am the wife of “Voice of Reason.” Years ago, the Fund received authority by the voters to raise fees without public permission. At that time, I cautioned the Fund that the sitting, reasonable Board members would not be on the Board forever. My warning fell on deaf ears.
I do not think it is reasonable to use taxes or fees for purposes other than for which they were supposedly collected. If there is a surplus, the taxes should be lowered. However, the assessed fees are the same this year as they were last year.
The Board would be wise to utilize the fees inside the scope for which the Fund’s purposes originated.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:23 pm (#)
what we have heah is a failure to communicate….hahaha
November 5th, 2009 at 1:24 pm (#)
voice maybe you should dicuss that with the board and not calvin he doesn’t even live in MC…..
November 5th, 2009 at 1:26 pm (#)
Thanks for sharing that with us voice. I will lay money that ftbendconservative will push it off this discussion though.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:27 pm (#)
“The Board would be wise to utilize the fees inside the scope for which the Fund’s purposes originated.”
This does sound like something they would do, huh charlie? How do you feel about this?
November 5th, 2009 at 1:28 pm (#)
tabor…myob…..know what it means?
November 5th, 2009 at 1:28 pm (#)
I feel its none of your business….know what myob is?
November 5th, 2009 at 1:31 pm (#)
Are telling the public not read these article and thread that expose these sort of actions? You are saying it is ok to raise peoples dues on promises and then not follow through? What are you saying charlie???
hahahaha……not only does he defend multi-million dollar debt, budget deficits and higher taxes to feed the vendors, he like higher HOA dues too….I wonder why???? ahahahah
What a neocon toadie…
November 5th, 2009 at 1:32 pm (#)
What happened to the money charlie? Don’t you even care?
November 5th, 2009 at 1:32 pm (#)
calvin you don’t live in MC, you don’t pay dues…..but yet you want to interfere. I know its one of the top 100 places to live in the USA…but you can’t live here….go back to louisiana.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:32 pm (#)
Are you on the board by chance??? hahaha
November 5th, 2009 at 1:34 pm (#)
I will do what I like and I like to read these reports.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:34 pm (#)
I’m telling you, you don’t live here…so moveon.org liberal
November 5th, 2009 at 1:36 pm (#)
no I’m not on the board…but I do pay dues.
Are you on the board? Do you pay dues?…..no?…then myob
typical liberals…but but but we know whats best for you…..hahaha
go gripe about Sugar Land….they don’t know you like we do…..hahaha
November 5th, 2009 at 1:37 pm (#)
The truth continues to come out……hahaha
November 5th, 2009 at 1:38 pm (#)
and I will do likewise tabor and when you stick your nose where it doesn’t belong I will let you know….you see thats how discussions work.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:39 pm (#)
You can’t make anyone stop posting or reading these threads troll.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:39 pm (#)
calvin you wouldn’t know the truth if it bit you in the azz loser
November 5th, 2009 at 1:39 pm (#)
Your the dummy defending the tax increases, the dues increases, the high debt and the politicians that thrive on it all. You are the only liberal in here dummy-charlie.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:40 pm (#)
didn’t say I was trying tabor, I told you to butt out….myob.
bother you?….sorry but its not you fund.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:40 pm (#)
Oh, our government impersonator is calling names now……how frightening…..hahahaha
November 5th, 2009 at 1:41 pm (#)
not defending anything liberal….merely telling you to butt out
and of course making a little fun of your lunacy….
November 5th, 2009 at 1:41 pm (#)
You can’t tell people what they do and don’t do. I can read and post if I like.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:42 pm (#)
Come on do another impersonation of a government official for us “conman”….are you on the board???? hahaha
November 5th, 2009 at 1:42 pm (#)
Why didn’t you respond to voices information charlie?
Voice of Reason says:
November 5th, 2009 at 1:23 pm (#)
I am the wife of “Voice of Reason.” Years ago, the Fund received authority by the voters to raise fees without public permission. At that time, I cautioned the Fund that the sitting, reasonable Board members would not be on the Board forever. My warning fell on deaf ears.
I do not think it is reasonable to use taxes or fees for purposes other than for which they were supposedly collected. If there is a surplus, the taxes should be lowered. However, the assessed fees are the same this year as they were last year.
The Board would be wise to utilize the fees inside the scope for which the Fund’s purposes originated.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:43 pm (#)
“santhony says:
November 5th, 2009 at 1:40 pm (#)
Oh, our government impersonator is calling names now
santhony says:
November 5th, 2009 at 1:39 pm (#)
Your the dummy”….btw its spelled you’re doc
November 5th, 2009 at 1:44 pm (#)
Still not ignoring a fellow Funder……answer voice dummy…..hahaha
November 5th, 2009 at 1:44 pm (#)
I did dummy I told them an excellent question for the board
and I told you and tabor to butt out….in case you’re keeping notes
November 5th, 2009 at 1:45 pm (#)
calvin do you belong to QVFund?….no then butt out….hahaha
November 5th, 2009 at 1:45 pm (#)
Actually you’re wrong again dummy
dum⋅my [duhm-ee] Show IPA noun, plural -mies, adjective, verb, -mied, -my⋅ing.
–noun
1. a representation or copy of something, as for displaying to indicate appearance: a display of lipstick dummies made of colored plastic.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:46 pm (#)
man I’m glad I don’t live in MC….having to listen to this nut all day would wear me down…..
calvin ever stay in a mental hosp….maybe in Austin?
November 5th, 2009 at 1:47 pm (#)
ahhh now the juvenile posts come
November 5th, 2009 at 1:48 pm (#)
You gave your usual lame response to voice, not a substantive one.
Pist One liners don’t count dummy….hahaha
You never did answer those questions about the mayor either and why he had to pay so much for 3 out of town democratic endorsements??? LOL
November 5th, 2009 at 1:48 pm (#)
I think voice made a great deal of sense.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:49 pm (#)
did you demand the 3 dems be thrown out of the dem party even though you’re not a dem?
November 5th, 2009 at 1:50 pm (#)
So now you don’t live in MC wadefishin/johnbernardbooks/ftbendconman…..hahaha
Charlie, are you on the board is that why you are defending keeping the dues money and not lowering the annual?
LOL
November 5th, 2009 at 1:52 pm (#)
Nope….why would I do that. We just support conservatives to run against the crony netwrok boyz you defend from any party……hahahaha
You must be thinking of someone else that didn’t like the republican mayor paying so much developer money from his campaign war chest to get the endorsement of 3 out of town democrats…..LOL
November 5th, 2009 at 1:53 pm (#)
Now you answer all the questions you’ve been asked charlie and do it honestly for once. Don’t worry the sky won’t fall on your head….hahaha
November 5th, 2009 at 1:54 pm (#)
i did too tabor
November 5th, 2009 at 1:55 pm (#)
We’re waiting “conman”….still playing dumb….hahaha
-I forgot….not playing
November 5th, 2009 at 1:55 pm (#)
the answer to every question you’ve asked is yes….
November 5th, 2009 at 1:57 pm (#)
Now that’s a keeper….just too bad you are a known liar and your yes to anything is meaningless fake conservative…..hahaha
Why didn’t you respond to voices information charlie?
Voice of Reason says:
November 5th, 2009 at 1:23 pm (#)
I am the wife of “Voice of Reason.” Years ago, the Fund received authority by the voters to raise fees without public permission. At that time, I cautioned the Fund that the sitting, reasonable Board members would not be on the Board forever. My warning fell on deaf ears.
I do not think it is reasonable to use taxes or fees for purposes other than for which they were supposedly collected. If there is a surplus, the taxes should be lowered. However, the assessed fees are the same this year as they were last year.
The Board would be wise to utilize the fees inside the scope for which the Fund’s purposes originated.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:57 pm (#)
Just to keep it on topic……
November 5th, 2009 at 1:58 pm (#)
Did what?
November 5th, 2009 at 1:59 pm (#)
can’t get more on topic than this calvin
You don’t live in MC
you don’t pay dues to QVFund….moveon.org
November 5th, 2009 at 2:04 pm (#)
More lies charlie….hahaha
FtBendConservative says:
November 5th, 2009 at 1:46 pm (#)
man I’m glad I don’t live in MC….having to listen to this nut all day would wear me down…..
Better apply that myob to yourself then trolling idiot….hahaha
November 5th, 2009 at 2:05 pm (#)
See I found it too.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:07 pm (#)
tabor I don’t want nuts like you and calvin to know where I live for a reason.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:08 pm (#)
Whose the nut? Back to name calling again.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:09 pm (#)
Sorry, I wondered a bit after getting very bored with “conman”…..his rant never changes.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:10 pm (#)
one is known by the company they keep……
November 5th, 2009 at 2:11 pm (#)
Looks like you’ve got another fan charlie. I remember when you picked up Sugarlandwatch that way too. You must be very popular as a troll, at least in your own mind. LOL
November 5th, 2009 at 2:12 pm (#)
“santhony says:
November 5th, 2009 at 2:09 pm (#)
Sorry, I wondered a bit”
calvin its wandered….and you claim to be a college leve prof?…..hahaha
November 5th, 2009 at 2:13 pm (#)
Answer the questions charlie, honestly. What do you think is going to happen to you? Don’t you think the crony-boyz will come to your defense? I’m sure they have a judge or two they can steer your way. LOL
November 5th, 2009 at 2:13 pm (#)
I do have trouble telling if SLW is just uneducated or drunk at times…..yanno?
November 5th, 2009 at 2:14 pm (#)
yes
November 5th, 2009 at 2:15 pm (#)
Nope, that’s not honest. One answer for all those questions. And it isn’t nice to degrade people. And no I don’t consider you or the crony-boyz real people.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:16 pm (#)
calvin do yourself a favor and moveon.org, you’ve become as nutty as a loon.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:17 pm (#)
calvin as if anyone cares what you think….hahaha…or wandered
November 5th, 2009 at 2:18 pm (#)
calvin we don’t care what you and the rest of the katrina refugees think…we really don’t
November 5th, 2009 at 2:20 pm (#)
We do pretty well without you fake conservative. It’s because of you our contact lists keep growing and growing and we can get a pretty decent size crowd to block-walk and speak before the taxing entities. You know the meetings you never attend only gripe about when voters do get active and involved.
Keep up the great work bully boy. You are doing wonders charlieB! hahaha
November 5th, 2009 at 2:21 pm (#)
Actually AH wrong area of the country and we’ve been in TX for over 20 years moron. I know we’ve paid more in taxes here than you and contributed more to the local charities in time, treasure and talent than you could in 3 life times fool. LOL
November 5th, 2009 at 2:27 pm (#)
calvin its a tossup who the laughing stock of Ft Bend is you or Ridrigo……
I saw your buddy Ridrigo at Pete’s town hall meeting and he was passing out business cards. I took one and said…oh you’re the guy that lost 3 election in 6 weeks and laughed.
you probably have him beat tho…..yanno?
November 5th, 2009 at 2:29 pm (#)
calvin I’ve been in this area since you were in diapers in La…I know all the players and you’re not one.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:32 pm (#)
You have not right telling anyone not to speak in these threads regardless of where you live or don’t live.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:33 pm (#)
Your put downs of others charlie only further diminish you if that is even possible idiot.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:35 pm (#)
Why haven’t you learned since the days of wadefishin, you and the corporate welfare boyz are getting the light brightly shown on you. The attorney general ordered some of your people to turn over records and they still with-held them…..yes the light will still continue to shine brightly on them and their little toadies boyz like you…ENJOY IT!
November 5th, 2009 at 2:42 pm (#)
tabor I didn’t tell you couldn’t speak, I said myob. Are you telling me I can’t tell you that?
calvin you foolishly waste time posting here. Why not get a life and accomplish something, right now your known as a laughing stock in Ft Bend. You’re wasting your life attacking me with false accusations. I’m not threatened by you merely amused.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:57 pm (#)
Tabor, you have every right to post. Our little corporate welfare boy hasn’t got a clue to what is even in the constitution, but your posts are very welcome.
PS Moron, you are nothing more than a foot note. I’m working as we speak and only pull you up between projects dummy. Now go bore someone else. We’ve had your number for a long, long time…..
November 5th, 2009 at 3:31 pm (#)
“santhony says:
November 5th, 2009 at 2:57 pm (#)
Tabor, you have every right to post”
as usual the troll has made a career out of getting it wrong. What is it called when someone always gets it wrong…oh here it is liberalism.
November 5th, 2009 at 3:38 pm (#)
Butting in again fake conservative lying AH??? Go feed the vendors crony-troll….. hahahaha
Pist Do they pay you to get up at 5am every morning to just do your usual one liners idiot?
November 5th, 2009 at 3:40 pm (#)
Don’t you think you should respond to voice if you are on the board charlie?
Voice of Reason says:
November 5th, 2009 at 1:23 pm (#)
I am the wife of “Voice of Reason.” Years ago, the Fund received authority by the voters to raise fees without public permission. At that time, I cautioned the Fund that the sitting, reasonable Board members would not be on the Board forever. My warning fell on deaf ears.
I do not think it is reasonable to use taxes or fees for purposes other than for which they were supposedly collected. If there is a surplus, the taxes should be lowered. However, the assessed fees are the same this year as they were last year.
The Board would be wise to utilize the fees inside the scope for which the Fund’s purposes originated.
November 5th, 2009 at 3:44 pm (#)
I get up early because I’m not lazy…and you?
calvin you’re not a member of QVFund…myob.
November 5th, 2009 at 3:46 pm (#)
What’s wrong, it isn’t your turn to feed them? hahaha
November 5th, 2009 at 4:56 pm (#)
feed who?
November 5th, 2009 at 4:57 pm (#)
I remember when the fund gave the city 150K last year. Did they get approval from the membership for that action either?
November 5th, 2009 at 5:05 pm (#)
I don’t recall seeing anything about requesting an approval…
What was the 150k given to the City for? Anyone know?
November 5th, 2009 at 5:05 pm (#)
are you a member of QVFund…..?!?
November 5th, 2009 at 5:09 pm (#)
calvin help me out here do you live in MC?
November 5th, 2009 at 5:10 pm (#)
I’m not sure Mocity. It wasn’t long after the eminent domain abuse lawsuit hit the mayor and several members of the council that live in QV and were named in the lawsuit. You could TPIA the city and request those records and what the funds were actually used for. I sure hope they weren’t using ya’lls fund without membership approval in the ED lawsuit, but who knows with this bunch.
Right charlie??? LOL
November 5th, 2009 at 5:13 pm (#)
“FtBendConservative says:
November 5th, 2009 at 1:46 pm (#)
man I’m glad I don’t live in MC….having to listen to this nut all day would wear me down…..”
Apparently you don’t live in MC “conman” so take your own advice or if you are lying tell MoCty where his annual HOA dues went and why? hahaha
November 5th, 2009 at 5:15 pm (#)
Are you all still arguing about the unemployment thingy?
November 5th, 2009 at 5:16 pm (#)
actually the article was published here on FBN.
no I don’t live in MC so only an idiot would ask me questions about the city. hahaha….did that help calvin?
November 5th, 2009 at 5:17 pm (#)
sunshine calvin is a troll he has no life you can find him here 24/7….
November 5th, 2009 at 5:18 pm (#)
calvin apparently I live in your haid, you are obssessed with me.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:19 pm (#)
its called a mancrush and its creepy….
November 5th, 2009 at 5:19 pm (#)
how long have you been a homo?
November 5th, 2009 at 5:20 pm (#)
calvin how old were you when you had your first gay tryst?
November 5th, 2009 at 5:27 pm (#)
Sunshine this is a different argument, but still related to the crony-boyz. You see the HOA apparently has been giving away their annual dues to the city and some charity without asking the membership for approval.
PS Why is it charlieB (conman/wadefishin/johnbernardbooks–government fake conservative no bid vendor defender) whenever someone posts important information that hurts your cronies you have to post so lame low-life off topic libel or any absurd AH thing that comes to your drunken mind? You are the only poster I know that posts such homophobic fantasy crap.
Grow up old man and answer the questions asked by MoCty. They are relevant to this thread and yes I am keeping this libel jerk.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:31 pm (#)
Just to get “conman” back on topic, here are the issues again-
MoCity says:
November 5th, 2009 at 5:05 pm (#)
I don’t recall seeing anything about requesting an approval…
What was the 150k given to the City for? Anyone know?
and this one
Voice of Reason says:
November 5th, 2009 at 1:23 pm (#)
I am the wife of “Voice of Reason.” Years ago, the Fund received authority by the voters to raise fees without public permission. At that time, I cautioned the Fund that the sitting, reasonable Board members would not be on the Board forever. My warning fell on deaf ears.
I do not think it is reasonable to use taxes or fees for purposes other than for which they were supposedly collected. If there is a surplus, the taxes should be lowered. However, the assessed fees are the same this year as they were last year.
The Board would be wise to utilize the fees inside the scope for which the Fund’s purposes originated.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:32 pm (#)
Sounds like this is just getting good.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:35 pm (#)
Who knows what they will uncover if they look deeper. I don’t think I would be very happy if my HOA was doing all this without membership approval either MoCity.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:49 pm (#)
gayboy te only way you’re happy is when you’re butting other business or telling everyone how to run their lives.
I’m sure if the fund needs you they’ll call.
Meanwhile quit stalking pervert
November 5th, 2009 at 7:23 pm (#)
Yes tabor it’s going to get very interesting with these thugs.
PS Whose talking to you jerk? Grow up old man and stop libeling real people who give a damn, because you sure don’t have any scruples and are a perfect fit for the edc-cronies and I mean a perfect sycophant fit.
November 5th, 2009 at 7:24 pm (#)
Sorry I got so negative all, but watching these two go on and on is sad.
November 5th, 2009 at 7:41 pm (#)
Wow, what a blowout.
November 5th, 2009 at 8:17 pm (#)
why does this site attract the nuts?
November 5th, 2009 at 8:44 pm (#)
Why would you participate if you weren’t getting something out of it ftbendconservative?
November 5th, 2009 at 8:59 pm (#)
I don’t. calvin falsely accuses me and you idots are so stupid you believe him. calin knows if he says something enough the less than bright will buy it hook line and sinker. I believe its called gullible.
now let me ask why are you so gullible you believe his lies?
November 5th, 2009 at 10:32 pm (#)
I never took sides in any of this. My point is simple, if you aren’t getting something out of this then why participate.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:03 pm (#)
The HOAs can’t directly support a elected candidates so they do the next best thing and give OUR money to city causes. Somebody please tell me how this is not double taxation without representation. I bet my HOA gives money to the KKK too. How do I stop them?
November 5th, 2009 at 11:06 pm (#)
Also, Conman is called conman for good reason. Very bright people agree on that, for sure.
November 6th, 2009 at 5:52 am (#)
cult of one can you read? can you understand what “I don’t” means? When anyone disagrees or challenges calvin he then makes false accusations. Then people like you attack the poster. Are you that gullible? ie:
“I bet my HOA gives money to the KKK too. How do I stop them?”
calvin is a troll and is “obsessed” with MC/FBISD/FTBendCTY and he needs to give the rant a rest. My question is why do you “participate”?
November 6th, 2009 at 8:00 am (#)
I too am absolutely “obsessed” with my community, family and justice. What are you obsessed with conman?
November 6th, 2009 at 8:11 am (#)
obviously I’m not obsessed with my HOA giving to the KKK, like you.
Its one thing to have values and principles its another to be over the line obsessed or as some might say “crazy as a loon”.
When you have two webistes one dedicated to trashing MC and one dedicated to trashing FBISD you’re more than obsessed.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:56 am (#)
I am VERY concerned that my HOA can give my annual dues away to anyone they feel like endearing themselves to. This is a structural HOA problem of great significance! As for websites, I would like to claim this website as my favorite, so I don’t know what other websites you are referring to. Are they as good as this one? Please give me the links?
November 6th, 2009 at 9:39 am (#)
I could only find one of the sites in my search you mentioned, but it looked like a typical blogger site. Mostly rehashed news on the schools and a very interesting video of a petition presentation to our school board along with numerous information links. I found one on the districts cumulative bond debt that was pretty disconcerting. I’m not sure who is obsessed with whom ftbendconservative, but I do resent you attacking me and you do seem to attack many on this site. Why is that and why would you continue to participate if it bothers you so much?
November 6th, 2009 at 10:21 am (#)
“I am VERY concerned that my HOA can give my annual dues away to anyone they feel like endearing themselves to.” get involved with YOUR HOA, you might make a difference.. Trashing other’s is juvenile.
“Please give me the links?”
Try learning to use the internet. Who knows you may enjoy it.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:34 am (#)
“Why is that and why would you continue to participate if it bothers you so much?”
I want to. Does that meet with your approval?
False accusations about does not meet with my approval, and will be challenged.
So simply put I’ll post here when I want, and anyone falsely accusing me will be treated the same as I’m treated.
I hope thats ok with you trolls.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:02 am (#)
Several years ago, QV Fund Board members reported that funds were needed to replace or repair mowing equipment, as well as the need to meet other rising expenses.
Instead of going to the voters each time, they sought and received voter approval to raise fees as required to meet the budget. The majority of the trusting voters approved the ballots that they had received in the mail. Thus, another government-controlled entity was unleased.
Since 2004, fees have risen from $212 to $396. Even though a surplus was collected, and sizeable gifts were made from those collections, the fees this year remain the same–$396.
The only way to rescind this power is for the people to speak out, and if there is no corrective action taken by the Board, then a petition by the fund members can give the power back to Quail Valley residents.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:08 am (#)
“..then a petition by the fund members can give the power back to Quail Valley residents.”
Voice, you will also need to keep a very close eye on the legal vendor for the community when you submit this petition and ask to be present when they are recording it. They are not obligated by law to allow you and if they don’t then you can challenge it through the courts in a civil case. I would strongly recommend, if it gets to this stage, that you contact a very experienced HOA attorney by the name of David Kahne. He’s been on the forefront of HOA abuses and violations of law.
Good luck!
November 6th, 2009 at 11:22 am (#)
The easiest route to take is to replace board members, as we did recently, replacing two. If you’re a member of the QVFund and involved/informed you knew that. If we need to replace more we’re also capable of doing that.
Using lawyers to solve problems usually benefits only the lawyers.
I learned early in life when making decisions it helps to have as much information possible in order to make an informed decision. Some still have that lesson to learn. However, it doesn’t stop them from telling others how to do things.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:27 am (#)
Didn’t you just spend last night and this morning complaining about the attacks on you? It looks like you are trying to goat a response to me ftbendconservative.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:39 am (#)
“It looks like you are trying to goat a response to me ftbendconservative.” you’ve asked me questions and I responded. Actually I’m not, however, if you choose to see that way thats up to you.
November 6th, 2009 at 3:33 pm (#)
We watch those proxy vote wars year in and year out and the HOA lawyer always keeps the bunch in he wants. When you ask to see the ballots they try to schedule it at a time that is very inconvenient. There has to be a better way than having the attorney hired by the board certify the count and just try to get records out of them short of filing a very expensive case. All we get each year is a very generic non-detailed budget and can you believe those security contracts. I remember one year it went to one of the constables who had a brother on the board. Don’t tell me about how its suppose to work, I know how it works first hand.
November 6th, 2009 at 5:03 pm (#)
I ask this question all the time… I feel like a broken record, but I will ask again in this forum:
Did anyone attend the last HOA meeting? Or any of the HOA meetings over the last few months?
November 6th, 2009 at 5:45 pm (#)
I used to go to both our MUD board meetings and our HOA board meetings, but I have missed the last 3 months worth due to health problems.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:25 pm (#)
Most people, sadly, do not attend their HOA meetings. HOAs have proven themselves to be crooked, manipulative and consumed with power freaks. Most people ignore their HOA problems and just hope they do not do too much damage to them personally. Unfortunately, the damage is systemic due to 1.unfair proxy manipulated elections, 2.foreclosure targeting, 3.reapportioned annual dues, and 4.closed records and meetings. People are usually picked off one at a time, so others either do not know about the injustices or they think that these injustices cannot happen to them. Hellooo… the structure of HOAs is dangerously flawed. Introduce yourselves to Senator John Carona!
November 7th, 2009 at 7:14 am (#)
whats crooked and manipulative is the posters here who use pseudos and make false accusations, while advertising for HOA lawyers and dem politicians.
I wonder when voters in cty precient 1 will discover they got hoodwinked?
November 7th, 2009 at 7:23 am (#)
I’m one of those I guess that almost has never attended. It always seemed easier to just let others handle everything.
November 7th, 2009 at 7:26 am (#)
Let me announce this emphatically:
“Others have handle it alright!!”
November 7th, 2009 at 8:21 am (#)
I didn’t say I was proud of that fact, but I’m going to try and attend more often. I don’t like what I’m reading and really should attend more.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:10 pm (#)
To slapandtickle - I appreciate you. Thank you.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:55 pm (#)
I just do the best that I can. I am glad that others are asking these questions though. It sounds like they need to be asked.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:03 pm (#)
I’m not blaming, I’m just saying that if you aren’t involved, then chances are, “others have already badly handled your HOA.” New Territory’s annual meetings are usually only attended by the board, those who work for the association, and their vendors. The vendors give “awards” to the association for essentially spending more money for landscaping than any of their other clients. In addition, the constables are there to try to convince any resident that might wonder in, that they are there for them and their safety, instead of there for civil cases, like foreclosing on them.
Naturally, the association thinks that they can get by with anything (and they do try) and they justify it by claiming homeowners are lazy and apathetic about their community, instead of understanding that homeowners do not attend meetings because they are angry and powerless to change their HOA. More networking needs to take place between homeowners so that this twisted justification for corruption can be stopped.
Having said this, our new board looks like it is trying to make substantial positive changes, especially in eliminating backward and no bid contracts. They also canned their corrupt old maintenance manager. This should save homeowners hundreds of thousands. Nevertheless, some members of the old regime are planning a takeover and return to old corrupt practices (but lucrative for them) in January. I hope that people will support the positive, cost saving, and good business practices that our new board has been working toward. They have a long way to go, but it seems that they are trying. I will sing their praises the loudest when they implement fair elections without proxy manipulations, open records and meetings, no foreclosure targeting, no reapportionment of annual dues.
When the structure of HOAs allow a blustering power-mad MUD official to twist the arms of HOA management and board members into targeting and harassing HOA residents, then the structure must be changed.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:58 pm (#)
What I don’t understand is that in ours we don’t even elect the board. We only pick our area representative. The last association I was in we elected our board directly. How come these newer neighborhoods don’t get to elect their board directly?
November 7th, 2009 at 5:02 pm (#)
“Quail Valley Fund Donates Science Books To Lantern Lane Elementary School”=topic
there are I Hate HOA blogs you can bitch on.
November 7th, 2009 at 5:03 pm (#)
“Quail Valley Fund Donates Science Books To Lantern Lane Elementary School”=topic
there are I Hate HOA blogs you can gripe on
November 7th, 2009 at 5:06 pm (#)
I have attended the last four or five HOA meetings. I stopped going a year or two back because of the infighting that was taking place. It was crazy to walk into a church of all places and hear constant bickering back and forth from the reps. I kind of reminds me a bit of this message board…
At our last HOA meeting, several citizens confronted the HOA about a street that is ’sinking’. The word is that for some odd reason the HOA actually owns the rights to this street and is somehow responsible for it. I don’t know the details, but the folks that showed up seemed a bit riled up about it, and rightfully so in my humble opinion.
The HOA president got a little heated himself and fired back a few ‘in your face’ comments, to which one of the attendees responded, “Why the attitude?” His response was that he felt some of the members were accusing him of wrong doing, when in truth he didn’t know about the issue save for three weeks prior to the meeting. One of the other attendees said that they had sent numerous items up to the HOA over the last several months - since April actually.
I realize that our HOA is made up of volunteers. I also realize that they are not exactly experts on the field of HOA or law necessarily. However, when people have been complaining about the same topic for over 7 months - do they not have the right to voice those frustrations?
Frankly, this is my complaint with the City. You voice and voice and voice and in the end they do what they want, when they want, and with no regard to anything anyone else says. (At least in my and several other instances.)
All people want is their voice to be heard, progression to be evident, normalization, safety and stability. While some folks will never be pleased, most of what people want is a pretty simple task.
Is there corruption in my HOA? I am sure there are some back room dinner conversations that take place beyond the prying eyes of the ‘common’ folk. Is the corruption rampant? I don’t believe so. Are there things the community can do to be heard? Only if there are ears to hear them.
November 7th, 2009 at 8:03 pm (#)
Ours sends out a prescreening survey to potential candidates and if you don’t give the right answers they nix you as a candidate. No one has ever challenged that before, but it seems very much like the illegal ”poll tests’ of the 1960s.
November 7th, 2009 at 11:15 pm (#)
Does anyone know where you report a board member who is violating the charter for the HOA?
November 8th, 2009 at 5:39 am (#)
The WH has a website you can report friends, neighbors and HOAs
November 8th, 2009 at 8:46 am (#)
I think you can file complaints against any company, profit or non-profit, with the secretary of states office. They are the ones the charter is filed with. If they violate the law I suppose you can report them to the AGs office or to your local DA. I believe the reporting depends on whether or not you think they might retaliate against you with fines or even an attempt to confiscate your property, which may trigger a prolonged and expensive series of legal entanglements, which under the current law makes you responsible for the costs on both sides.
November 8th, 2009 at 8:48 am (#)
One of the other attendees said that they had sent numerous items up to the HOA over the last several months - since April actually.
Who is the management company and were they keeping the complaints from board members or was that just a dodge mocity?
November 8th, 2009 at 9:20 am (#)
For those of you seeking more hard data on HOA abuses there is an excellent study by a former Harvard researcher located at:
http://pages.prodigy.net/hoadata/
You will see how this industry is feeding the vendor attorneys since the key 1987 TX Sup. Ct. decision to allow what used to be voluntary organizations access to individual homeowner equity and seizure. Not a very neighborly industry who also wrote and pushed through the property code ch. 204 causing many to lose their homes and others severe financial hardship. These cases now number in the tens of thousands and many law firms are involved on the side of the HOA boards.
You need to also know that under current property code, mostly written by the industry, the incentive for the HOA legal vendor is to pursue cases and feed off individual homeowners since most do not receive financial support from the HOA. They depend of the fines, fees generated by actions against you or your neighbors.
The site also offers some interesting trends that deflate the common arguments for giving such power to untrained private entities that until ‘87 were reserved only for some governmental taxing entities.
November 8th, 2009 at 9:33 am (#)
you can even turn your comrades in, or you can sue someone. Its the liberal way.
Who have you turned in today?
November 8th, 2009 at 9:40 am (#)
So homeowners that report violations of law are now “liberals”? That’s an interesting twist. I wonder if county prosecutors feel that way too, does that include home invasions, car theft and other types of crime? Your logic leaves a great deal to be desired.
November 8th, 2009 at 9:48 am (#)
no liberals are the ones with noses stuck in other’s businesses because they’re the smartest people in the world and they know whats best for everyone else.
November 8th, 2009 at 9:52 am (#)
as I previously posted you dudley do-right do gooders need to go find a HOA blog to gripe on.
“Quail Valley Fund Donates Science Books To Lantern Lane Elementary School”
I’m tired of listening to 24/7 gritching. Get a life.
November 8th, 2009 at 10:39 am (#)
I’ve asked you this before ftbendconservative. If you are tired of listening to what you call 24/7 gritching, then why continue to participate in the gritching? Before you said you do it because you like it, but now you say you are tired of it. So which is it and why would you continue if you are so tired of it? I’m just very curious about your behavior in here.
November 8th, 2009 at 10:52 am (#)
you’re right, maybe I’m being too subtle. Your group tries to turn every thread into a forum for off topics rants.
IT GETS OLD! CAN YOU TAKE IT ELSEWHERE? Does that help?
November 8th, 2009 at 10:52 am (#)
Is there corruption in my HOA? …
http://www.ahrc.com/new/index.php/src/tools/sub/yp/action/display/id/1863
The structure itself, is corrupt.
I was just at Brazos State Park and saw a gator take a duck. There was some commotion from the other ducks during the attack, but the other ducks settled down even before the gater finished swallowing the bird. This is exactly how we behave between attacks from our HOA. We could stop these attacks. We are not ducks. Conman the gatorman wants us to calm down and be glad that it was someone else, and not us, this time.
November 8th, 2009 at 10:56 am (#)
Is there corruption in my HOA? …
The structure itself is corrupt.
I was just at Brazos State Park and saw a gator take a duck. There was some commotion from the other ducks during the attack, but the other ducks settled down even before the gater finished swallowing the bird. This is exactly how we behave between attacks from our HOA. We could stop these attacks. We are not ducks. Conman the gatorman wants us to calm down and be glad that it was someone else, and not us, this time.
November 8th, 2009 at 11:02 am (#)
so now HOS are gators what happened to the KKK?
do you juvenilem trolls need the attn this badly?
hahaha what a bunch of losers.
November 8th, 2009 at 11:06 am (#)
hay Ft Bend Con look at me….no look at me….hahaha
November 8th, 2009 at 11:24 am (#)
Well I’m not part of any group, as you say. Perhaps you just bring out the worst in the blogs you participate in ftbendconservative. I’m still trying to figure out what your soapbox is. Don’t you support property rights?
November 8th, 2009 at 11:26 am (#)
I like the descriptors Patriot Missive. I believe some call it the herding mentality. We see it quite a bit in politics too.
November 8th, 2009 at 11:35 am (#)
Whistle blowers all “seem” to speak in hyperbole, until the evidence and the real issues are known to more than just a few. I suggest that anyone living in a HOA to go to the AARP website, the Houston League of Women Voters website, and Texas HOA Reform website, and the HOA Foreclosure Data website just to get started on familiarizing themselves with the obscene gator like attacks of the HOA system.
November 8th, 2009 at 11:52 am (#)
don’t forget the WH website for turning in your neighbors and friends, troll.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:42 pm (#)
What’s the site for the HOA foreclosure data Patriot?
November 8th, 2009 at 3:13 pm (#)
See links in post 247 & 254 for databases and research on much of this…
November 8th, 2009 at 3:52 pm (#)
oh jeez crazychris has his panties in a wad again.
November 8th, 2009 at 3:56 pm (#)
Just ignore the hired edc-troll monkey. He has nothing of substance to add to any of the forums, that’s why we call him the “village idiot”. hahaha
November 8th, 2009 at 3:57 pm (#)
But the links in posts 247 & 254 are very good sources for the rest of you.
November 8th, 2009 at 4:04 pm (#)
you call me the village idiot because you have nothing of substance to offer.
Get a life you whiney complaining loser.
November 8th, 2009 at 4:21 pm (#)
These links (247 & 254) are of real and lasting “substance.” I am at a loss as to why con-gator would want people to stay uninformed on basic property rights. Santhony, can you explain why the village idiot would want all property owners to remain ignorant of basic property rights? I can only imagine!
November 8th, 2009 at 4:45 pm (#)
pms from # 247 “THE DATABASES LIST COURT FILINGS THAT COULD LEAD TO FORECLOSURE. THESE DO NOT LIST ACTUAL FORECLOSURE SALES.”
have someone explain to you the difference between actual and what could happen.
Your sky “could” fall tomorrow, mine probably won’t. But don’t let me bring any knowledge to your little corner of the world.
November 8th, 2009 at 5:05 pm (#)
PM, I don’t know if I can explain it all, other than he is a toadie (classic internet troll) for the area special interest that use many of the developer run HOAs and some of the non-developer run HOAs like the old political wards, even though that is illegal for them to behave as such since they are not PACs, but non-profits corps. CharlieB (wadefishin/ftbendconman/johnbernardbooks/noodlz/etc…) admitted he was very much part of an HOA being investigated by the Treasury dept. that actually solicited funds for certain government vendor feeding candidates.
They like to call themselves “conservative”, but this clique uses Eminent Domain to take large amounts of property away from property owners, rather than pay them market value. They pretend to want lower taxes and hide deep within the arms of the local republican party. Many in the party recognize them and which industry is backing them financially and have run for office in opposition. They usually attack them with their usual lies. Usually you can tell what the “neocons/fake conservatives” are up to because charlie telegraphs it in here. They oppose CAD appraisal caps and property tax caps along with supporting giving our public roadways we’ve paid for over to private foreign corporations as toll roads, just to name a few. They’ve also backed, endorsed and accepted “tipping fees” (some call them legal bribes) to push for the largest landfill (near 20 stories) in the SE Texas area. It will also be the highest man made structure in the county (remember most buildings are limited to 6 stories in our county). Charlie isn’t a major player, but thinks he is and continues to give them away in here.
It’s really too bad we see hired trolls like these, but we are dealing with them as we speak. This one likes to threaten old women, teachers and other posters as has been well documented over the years. He is all about borrowing more and creating greater debt, higher property taxes and intentional ad valorem increases as well as increased spending on special projects for this same political machine. He has defended all of these in here and is doing so right now in the FBISD over-crowding thread.
He is a very sad person, but it is hard to have sympathy for someone that does this deliberately and for a living to his neighbors and family.
PS Actually charlie, Joe Murphy called you the “village idiot” and others have merely repeated it and it has become the normal nick given to you by posters in here. You seem to thrive on the attention, so enjoy it.
November 8th, 2009 at 5:10 pm (#)
You see classic attacks on homeowners property rights by charlie in the #269 post above. it’s really a good example of what I just mentioned above. You won’t see him defending classic conservatism on constitutional principals. He is a no-bid corporate vendor feeder and attacks free markets, real fair trade as well as democracy.
I believe they call it classic corpocracy (corporate run government) ala Mussolini. They would be proud of him. Individual and constitutional rights are suspended in such a government.
November 8th, 2009 at 5:33 pm (#)
That’s a powerful site Patriot Missive, thanks for including it. I found the list of law firms very interesting and I’m going to do a search on our HOA from the county court site to see how many of these guys are replicating this here in our county and with our HOA. I’m sure they use the thousands of filings as fee generators. I especially enjoyed the report on how the higher the number of filings the lower the property values were in those neighborhoods. It was interesting because one of the standard arguments for having this power is to maintain property values and apparently we are seeing just the opposite. I’ve just started looking at it, but it appears to have some excellent information.
November 8th, 2009 at 5:38 pm (#)
calvin I’m easy to explain, I’m neither a kool aide drinker or a whining complaining loser.
November 8th, 2009 at 5:48 pm (#)
Foreclosure FILINGS make as much, or more, money for the HOA vendors than completed foreclosures. Foreclosure filings are where the real HOA economic shakedowns take place. A fifty dollar garbage-can fine can quickly turn into a $50,000.00 foreclosure filing. Most people would pay anything to avoid the trauma of seeing their home sold on the courthouse steps, and don’t the HOA attorney vendors know it!
November 8th, 2009 at 6:48 pm (#)
PM, the link to the Fox investigation in the #254 post is my favorite. It show how these cronies operate often in an unethical manner. We have Mr. Howard in this area much like the Woodlands have Mr. Carona. They really shouldn’t stage lobbyist as average homeowners, but that’s the industry feeding on its own.
November 8th, 2009 at 7:00 pm (#)
“A fifty dollar garbage-can fine can quickly turn into a $50,000.00 foreclosure filing.”
folks has anyone seen “One flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest” Its being lived out here in Ft Bend Cty…..hahaha omg this is hilarious.
November 8th, 2009 at 7:51 pm (#)
PM, I did a brief search and found quite a few cases like the one you shared. One I found had a family spending almost $270K over a 3 year court battle with their HOA over mold on a fence. Here’s one over an RV, apparently these cases violating the property rights and draining the equity off people private property are very common:
HOA battle over RV sets Gilbert family back $100,000
Astrid Galvan - Aug. 11, 2009 12:07 PM
AP Wire
A two-year legal battle over where to park an RV is now costing a Gilbert family $100,000…
-What’s really sad PM is the lobbyist-lawyer who helped write the property code that helped set up this system is also on the HOAdata.org lawyer abuse list and has family members of judges serving in his law firm who is our county district judge administrator who hears and assigns many of these cases. It would seem like another potential conflict of interest. I remember reading about a complaint filed against the FB county district judge administrator with the Texas Commission on Judical Conduct a few years ago that was investigated.
Amazing what a little mold will turn up. LOL
November 8th, 2009 at 7:52 pm (#)
“A fifty dollar garbage-can fine can quickly turn into a $50,000.00 foreclosure filing.”
“I bet my HOA gives money to the KKK too.”
One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest what was I thinking this is pure “Larry, Curly, and Moe” stuff…….hahaha
November 8th, 2009 at 7:55 pm (#)
“One I found had a family spending almost $270K over a 3 year court battle with their HOA over mold on a fence.”
wait wait you forgot “slime in the ice machine”…..hahaha omg!!!!!!!!!!!!
which one of you is Larry? and who’s moe?….hahaha omg!!!!!
November 8th, 2009 at 7:58 pm (#)
“They like to call themselves “conservative”, but this clique uses Eminent Domain to take large amounts of property away from property owners,”
and hold on to your hats folks its now time for the “golf course” rant…
we haven’t heard that one yet today.
all this complaining because of “Quail Valley Fund Donates Science Books To Lantern Lane Elementary School”….its not someone lost a court case about pseudos or something earth shattering……hahaha omg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 8th, 2009 at 8:02 pm (#)
my sides are hurting….hahaha
November 8th, 2009 at 8:03 pm (#)
PM, Another good one was in the neighborhood across from where charlie (conman) is a member (board member hahaha)…..Meadow Creek in Missouri City. They had 288 foreclosure filings out of 714 homes total. They tried to turn their board over several times because their legal vendor was cashing in. A SL city council member was one of the primary partners of that law firm.
PS Ever notice how charlie has absolutely no redeeming character traits? All he can do is poke fun and troll. I found a case in the AHRC database on a retired couple his HOA went after too. You would have to be nearly brain dead to respond the way this low-life does to issues impacting homes, schools, children and families. An absolute zero.
PPS I guess someone who makes comments like these below can’t possibly be human, just a vegetable:
FtBendConservative says: September 4th, 2009 (#) SillyAnthony don’t you have some little old ladies to kneecap?
November 8th, 2009 at 8:05 pm (#)
The list of people who have been consumed by their HOAs is endless. A retired woman in Pecan Grove has been fined over 300,000.00 for a fence that she installed, and was approved by her board, but she did not install it until the new board took office. She waited several months to install it, because she was being treated for cancer. Her board president madly wants her home. He is gator hungry for foreclosure! She is one of so many others…
I do wish this HOA system were just fantasy as con-gator wants the other ducks in our pond to think.
November 8th, 2009 at 9:05 pm (#)
How awful! HOA’s having the ability to foreclose on homes is craziness.
November 8th, 2009 at 9:37 pm (#)
You can see why HOAs would want to donate books and spray other “air fresheners” while they do their real “dirty work,” with our money.
If HOAs were required to have open records and meetings, fair elections, no foreclosure threats, and no reapportionment of annual dues, then they would need a lot less air freshener!
Why not allow fair elections to vote on HOA contributions for district and city services?
November 9th, 2009 at 4:55 am (#)
“A fifty dollar garbage-can fine can quickly turn into a $50,000.00 foreclosure filing.”
“I bet my HOA gives money to the KKK too.”
and these little boogers want to tell “Others” how to run their HOA? ummm we’ll call you don’t call us.
hahaha…..Larry Curly and Moe just about sums it up.
November 9th, 2009 at 4:58 am (#)
“All he can do is poke fun”
calvin don’t most people make fun of you? Have you ever stopped and “*wandered” why?
*Phd spelling
November 9th, 2009 at 5:12 am (#)
Here’s a tip to the malcontents. If you want to move into an established neighborhoof. First find out what the rules are. Then decide if you can abide with them. Thats how grownups do it.
Unfortunately there are always a few “oddballs” who thinks the rules are for someone else. “you can’t make me pick up my trashcans You can’t make me paint my house. You can’t make me…..” So because of a few nuts then everyone gets saddled with rules.
In order for man to peacefully co-exist there must be rules and unfortunately there are always a “few” that the “rules don’t apply to”. Its called a lack of respect for authority and they always get ostracized.
November 9th, 2009 at 8:13 am (#)
The targeted way the rules are applied and the manipulated manner that board members acquire power offer no legal protection for any home owner. HOAs pick off people one at a time so that others can hold on to the idea (hope) that those who are picked off before them, are “oddballs” who don’t want to pick up the trash can. Most people are unaware that people can be targeted for absolutely nothing. Indeed, if the targeted person hires a lawyer to make the HOA prove that he left his garbage can out, the HOA simply hires their attorney and bills the homeowner for the HOA attorney. The HOA vendor attorney’s bill will be in the thousands (and in the rapid process of growing). There is absolutely no oversight in the HOA gator scam.
There is no mystery that Enron was headquartered here. Texas has not yet learned how to make “business friendly” less unethical and fraudulent. We can start with the structure of our HOAs.
Also gator-con might want to take his own 2×4 sized grammar planks out of his own eye before pointing to anyone else. Con-gator does run a shell game for someone who does not want the system improved. There can be no question about that.
November 9th, 2009 at 8:18 am (#)
If you feel that your HOA board is run well, you are either not well informed or indeed it is run well. The structure of the system allows your honest and well run board to be one election away from tyranny. The HOA system is structurally corrupt.
November 9th, 2009 at 9:16 am (#)
Must’ve gotten another letter in the mail…
November 9th, 2009 at 9:29 am (#)
Looks like the discussions here is a little more than a letter.
Did anyone find out if the membership was given a chance to vote on this or the $150,000 gift the board gave away last year after raising the annuals and not using the funds as then expressed?
November 9th, 2009 at 9:51 am (#)
Scud has a vendetta against all HOAs everywhere. Of course he’d have a fit if people were parking their cars up in their yards or not cutting their grass. You can bet on that.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:00 am (#)
I think if you would stop calling people names you may be more effective. Who is ’scud’ anyway? I would also suggest that you read some of the reports in this rather long thread and check out those live links above too. They are not about people parking cars in their yards. I read one case where thousands in fines went to a lawyer for grass that was higher than code. Sounds like they need some major tort reform in this area too.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:07 am (#)
Hey newbie, mind your own business.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:08 am (#)
I wasn’t talking to you. Are you Scud’s keeper?
November 9th, 2009 at 10:32 am (#)
Why do you all argue so much. Life is to short.
November 9th, 2009 at 11:45 am (#)
looks like the HOA ranters got their collective butts handed to them again. Apparently for some losing is a habit.
November 9th, 2009 at 2:43 pm (#)
Even a barking megamouth will not stop HOA reformers. Too many people are now being affected (targeted) due to a decrease of money flowing into the HOA pipeline. Like crack addicts, HOAs will keep targeting homeowners until their money and power addictions are temporary satisfied.
Purple houses and jacked up cars are the same fear techniques as ” weapons of mass destruction” created to manipulate people into signing on to flaming BS.
November 9th, 2009 at 2:52 pm (#)
Well as long as some boards act without the consent of there membership I’m sure we will continue to see problems. Our individual property rights are no small matter. Thank you for the list of lawyers that feed off this system.
November 9th, 2009 at 3:30 pm (#)
“Well as long as some boards act without the consent of there membership I’m sure we will continue to see problems.”
sounds like the dems in Congress who won’t listen…..hmmmm
November 9th, 2009 at 3:44 pm (#)
haha HOA reformers? What have you done to reform anything, Scud? Whining on a messageboard doesn’t count BTW.
November 9th, 2009 at 3:53 pm (#)
I would agree with the statement in 301, but include all professional politicians. It’s nice to see you agree that consent of the governed is essential in HOAs and all levels of government.
November 9th, 2009 at 3:57 pm (#)
For those QV types - I believe there is an HOA meeting tonight at the Grill… at least that is what the sign at the entrance to the community said.
November 9th, 2009 at 4:13 pm (#)
Thanks mocity for sharing that information. I will try to make it.
November 9th, 2009 at 4:38 pm (#)
Unless I am mistaken… this is what I was able to find:
To: All members of the Board of Trustees of Quail Valley Fund, Inc. (“Fund”)
From: Charles Butera, President
Please take notice there will be a Regular Meeting of the Board of Trustees of the Fund, which will be held on the date, time and place and for the purposes set forth in the Agenda below.
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009
Time: 7:00 P.M.
Place: Quail Valley Golf Course Grille, 2880 La Quinta, Missouri City, Texas
November 9th, 2009 at 6:50 pm (#)
306 posts, wow!
November 10th, 2009 at 7:55 am (#)
I found another one:
http://www.myfortbend.net/news/local/opinion-editorial/1274-sugar-land-property-rights-advocate-is-featured-on-national-radio-show-on-the-commons-podcast=
Wow! apparently HOA Reform is underway!
November 10th, 2009 at 12:08 pm (#)
How did the meeting go last night mocity? Did charlie butera show up?
November 11th, 2009 at 12:57 pm (#)
FortBendNow needs to offer more HOA Reform information. Abusive HOAs commit crimes that are too easily quelled by newspapers with developer controlled advertising dollars.
November 11th, 2009 at 1:39 pm (#)
Move out to the country where there is no HOA and quit your constant whining. I’ve never seen such a little crybaby in
all my life.
November 11th, 2009 at 1:50 pm (#)
I take that back. Even with all your constant moaning and whining, you still come in a distant second to ‘Jane L’ who
has attained the status of Master Whiner.
haha
November 11th, 2009 at 1:50 pm (#)
You all aren’t going to start fighting again, are you?
November 11th, 2009 at 1:56 pm (#)
Yes, Board Marm, if you don’t like it, don’t click on this thread anymore.
November 11th, 2009 at 2:13 pm (#)
You need to stop being so rude to people.
November 11th, 2009 at 2:19 pm (#)
Didn’t you call me “dumb” yesterday, hmmm?